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    Quote Originally Posted by 8ankitj View Post
    Much like how I would respond to, but I didn't. Kyear has this peculiar habit.
    Yeah it infuriates me, one of the very few things on forums that get on my nerves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike5181 View Post
    What's a South African all-time XI look like now?
    Mine would be...

    1. Barry Richards ^
    2. Bruce Mitchell
    3. Jacques Kallis - 5 ^
    4. Graeme Pollock
    5. Dudley Nourse
    6. Aubrey Faulkner* - 6
    7. John Waite +
    8. Mike Procter - 1 ^
    9. Hugh Tayfield - 4
    10. Allan Donald - 2
    11. Dale Steyn - 3

    Admittedly unsure on who would captain that side - I don't know enough to justify an opinion there. Bowling order could naturally be changed around to anyone's liking too - just as long as Procter's first
    Oh for a strong arm and a walking stick

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    I'd have Tahir over Tayfield

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    Jager's favourites 11

    1. Jack Hobbs
    2. Bob Simpson - 7 ^
    3. Neil Harvey ^
    4. Jacques Kallis - 6 ^
    5. Keith Miller - 3 ^
    6. Mike Procter - 2
    7. Archie Jackson
    8. Richie Benaud* - 5
    9. Shane Warne - 4
    10. Malcolm Marshall - 1
    11. Bob Taylor †

    12. Fazal Mahmood
    13. Alan Davidson
    Last edited by Jager; 03-02-2013 at 05:32 AM.

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    Favourites:

    1. Matthew Sinclair
    2. Nathan Astle
    3. Ricky Ponting
    4. Martin Crowe
    5. Mark Waugh
    6. Adam Gilchrist+
    7. Christopher Cairns
    8. Shane Warne
    9. Brett Lee
    10. Shane Bond
    11. Dale Steyn

    Martyn, Hussey, Kallis, Lara are up there as well.


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    Very modern side, surprised Paddles didn't get in Mikey.

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    Outside some Youtube videos, I haven't seen much of the players before 99ish. Watched quite a lot of Crowe's innings just recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    Please justify what you say about Pollock. It's your opinion FFS, not a fact like you seem to make it out to be.
    Shaun Pollock in my estimation was not as good a strike bowler Marshall, Ambrose, Garner or Holding. His high strike rate of over 57 and only 16 five fors in 108 tests says to me he was a very good support bowler and a clear no. 2 to Donald.
    Also from watching him bowl he also seemed too often to be in control mode rather than wicket taking mode which especially on the wickets he played on at home wan't quite good enough.
    Aus. XI
    Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2


    W.I. XI
    Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4

    S.A. XI
    Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Waite+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2

    Eng. XI
    Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    Yeah it infuriates me, one of the very few things on forums that get on my nerves.



    Mine would be...

    1. Barry Richards ^
    2. Bruce Mitchell
    3. Jacques Kallis - 5 ^
    4. Graeme Pollock
    5. Dudley Nourse
    6. Aubrey Faulkner* - 6
    7. John Waite +
    8. Mike Procter - 1 ^
    9. Hugh Tayfield - 4
    10. Allan Donald - 2
    11. Dale Steyn - 3

    Admittedly unsure on who would captain that side - I don't know enough to justify an opinion there. Bowling order could naturally be changed around to anyone's liking too - just as long as Procter's first
    Very strong team there, no faults really. Nourse did captain a few after the second war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    I'd have Tahir over Tayfield
    Funniest post I've seen in some time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    Jager's favourites 11

    1. Jack Hobbs
    2. Bob Simpson - 7 ^
    3. Neil Harvey ^
    4. Jacques Kallis - 6 ^
    5. Keith Miller - 3 ^
    6. Mike Procter - 2
    7. Archie Jackson
    8. Richie Benaud* - 5
    9. Shane Warne - 4
    10. Malcolm Marshall - 1
    11. Bob Taylor

    12. Fazal Mahmood
    13. Alan Davidson
    Jackson batting at 7?



    Anyways, my favourites would probably look something like this.

    1. Sid Barnes
    2. Herbert Sutcliffe ---- I may be the only one, but, so much for him.
    3. Bill Ponsford
    4. Graeme Pollock
    5. Shiv Chanderpaul
    6. Jacques Kallis
    7. Adam Gilchrist
    8. Mike Procter
    9. Muttiah Muralitharan
    10. Clarrie Grimmett
    11. Glenn McGrath

    12. Sydney Barnes

    Breaks my heart to leave out Syd Barnes, but Procter + McGrath is just a dream for me. Cannot go past Grimmett and Murali either, both capable of bowling long spells if needed. (and two of the best stories in cricket!!!) Could possibly, POSSIBLY remove Shiv and add an extra bowler. But, unneeded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watson View Post
    Hadlee was not vastly better than Marshall, but I believe him to be significantly better from what I saw on the TV,

    In the early 80s he was one of only 2-3 Kiwi batsman who had any idea against Dennis Lillee. I remember the following 50 by Hadlee as if it were yesterday. The team score was 152 all out;

    1st Test: Australia v New Zealand at Brisbane, Nov 28-30, 1980 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
    Hadlee's and Marshall's record againts Australia are virtually identicle and take away Hadlee's 47 avg vs minnow Sri lanka really isn't much in it between the two as batsmen. Marshall also didn't commit himself as a batsman as he should have and didn't get the most out of his ability. No where as good as good as Imram, but good enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyear2 View Post
    Hadlee's and Marshall's record againts Australia are virtually identicle and take away Hadlee's 47 avg vs minnow Sri lanka really isn't much in it between the two as batsmen. Marshall also didn't commit himself as a batsman as he should have and didn't get the most out of his ability. No where as good as good as Imram, but good enough.
    If Maco hadn't been able to bowl I reckon he'd have been a top class batsman - he could really look the part sometimes, and when he didn't I always got the impression he just wasn't too fussed rather than not good enough

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    @Coronis I knew someone would mention Jackson at 7, I just like the idea of having Procter at 6 batting with Miller. Would be mayhem. Obviously it'd be far smarter to bat Procter at 7 though.

    Don't worry, I love Sutcliffe too - opens the batting for my ATG team (the one that ruthlessly wins matches, not the one that I'd enjoy the most).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    If I wanted to bat to eleven:

    1 Hobbs
    2 Grace
    3 Bradman
    4 Tendulkar
    5 Headley
    6 Sobers
    7 Gilchrist
    8 Imran
    9 Benaud
    10 Hadlee
    11 Marshall

    Which is incidentally just straight up my usual team with Benaud in for Murali.
    Outside of Sobers, who wil man the slip cordon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    Jager's favourites 11

    1. Jack Hobbs
    2. Bob Simpson - 7 ^
    3. Neil Harvey ^
    4. Jacques Kallis - 6 ^
    5. Keith Miller - 3 ^
    6. Mike Procter - 2
    7. Archie Jackson
    8. Richie Benaud* - 5
    9. Shane Warne - 4
    10. Malcolm Marshall - 1
    11. Bob Taylor

    12. Fazal Mahmood
    13. Alan Davidson
    14. Brad Hodge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    @Coronis I knew someone would mention Jackson at 7, I just like the idea of having Procter at 6 batting with Miller. Would be mayhem. Obviously it'd be far smarter to bat Procter at 7 though.

    Don't worry, I love Sutcliffe too - opens the batting for my ATG team (the one that ruthlessly wins matches, not the one that I'd enjoy the most).
    Have you decided on who your fast bowlers are as yet?

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    The XI to appease kyear

    1. Bob Simpson (1)
    2. Jack Hobbs (Point)
    3. Viv Richards (Cover)
    4. Greg Chappell (3)
    5. Gary Sobers (2)
    6. Adam Gilchrist (wk)
    7. Ian Botham (4)
    8. Richie Benaud (Gully)
    9. Malcolm Marshall
    10. Dale Steyn (Long Leg)
    11. Muttiah Muralitharan (Mid On)

    Fielding positions for the first over.



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