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About LinkBacksYeah, I understand your point. I was referring to the difference in believing in Archie Jackson and GodOriginally Posted by watson
Yeah, I understand your point. I was referring to the difference in believing in Archie Jackson and God
Barry Richards played 339 FC games, averaged 55, and compiled 80 centuries. This is about 5 times more than Jackson who played only 70 FC games, averaged 46, and compiled 11 centuries. And then the debate goes on from there..........
(Haven't we been down this road before Monk?)
Barnes in this match revealed himself once more as one of the most remarkable bowlers that this country has ever produced. He has a positively wonderful command of the leg break.... His great height makes it difficult for the batsman to follow the flight of the ball. He is useful on every kind of wicket, whereas few bowlers of his pace are able to bowl on a sticky wicket. - JACK HOBBS, 'My Cricket Memories' (1924)
I agreeYeah, I understand your point. I was referring to the difference in believing in Archie Jackson and God. The evidence that Archie Jackson is a superior batsman to Don Bradman far out weighs the empirical and philosophical evidence for the existience of the adjective known as 'God'.
I know you may hate the guy atm, but you're mad if you're seriously picking Parore ahead of McCullum. Slightly better keeping for considerably poorer batting.
Maow like no one can hear you maowing.
McCullum's my second opener.
Yeah. McCullum+Parore > McIntosh+McCullum.
~ Cribbage
Haha, I need more sleep.
Overall 3 pace bowlers with O'Reilly / Warne is probably the best option for Australia. Both had excellent first innings bowling averages, and both would be dangerous on the first day of the Test. Most off-spinners (left / right arm) tend to struggle in the first innings.
Another option (possibly belongs in the romantic 11) might be to replace one of the Spinners with Bill Johston as he bowled both pace an spin. Gives you 4 pace bowlers or 2 spinners as required + the left hand variation.
Wisden - Bill Johnston
Johnston is probably the most underrated and overlooked great Aussie bowler.
I've gushed over him many times on CW - a wonderful bowler.
And consider this. Below is a list of Australians who have averaged more than 100 with the bat on a First Class tour of England:
Bradman, DG
Johnston, WA
WAG.
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According to the Wisden article, the 100+ average was a little contrived, but a lot of fun for those involved.
Just seamed to me an attack of
Pace: Lillee, McGrath, Miller, Johnston WA
Spin: Warne, Johnston WA
is a bit better balanced than the alternatives
So which player was the best combination of Batsman/ All Rounder and Slip Fielder:
Garry Sobers
Greg Chappell
Wally Hammond
Brian Lara
Rickey Ponting
Viv Richards
Jacques Kallis
Neil Harvey
Everton Weekes
Bobby Simpson
Sunil Gavaskar
Clive Lloyd
Bruce Mitchell
Allan Border
Matthew Hayden
Graeme Pollock
All Rounders
Ian Botham
Keith Miller
Tony Greig
Andrew Flintoff
Last edited by kyear2; 31-01-2013 at 06:47 AM.
1st XI
Hutton* | Hobbs | Bradman | Richards^ | Tendulkar | Sobers5^ | Gilchrist+ | Khan3 | Marshall1 | Warne4^ | McGrath2
2nd XI
Sutcliffe | Gavaskar* | Headley | Chappell^ | Lara^ | Kallis5^ | Knott+ | Hadlee3 | Ambrose2 | Lillee1 | Muralitharan4
3rd XI
Greenidge | Richards^ | Ponting^ | Pollock | Hammond^ | Worrell5* | Waite+ | Akram3 | Steyn1 | Holding2 | O'Reilly4
4th XI
Morris | Simpson^ | Sangakkara | Weekes^ | Border*^ | Walcott+ | Faulkner5 | Laker4 | Trueman1 | Garner3 | Donald2
Sobers was unbelievable at leg slip. Clearly his batting and bowling wasn't good enough for him.
He was also exceptional at second slip, his slip fielding is greatly under rated and was equally important as his bowling.
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