The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread - Page 66

Jager · 25-10-2012, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monk

"Dead" wicketkeeper would be Godfrey Evans for me.

"Living" openers would be Sunny Gavaskar and Geoff Boycott.

I can only assume you're off your rocker

- where's Barry Richards!?

Spooony · 25-10-2012, 11:12 PM

Just pondering something. Did Bradman knew in his time what reverse swing was and what a sub continent pitch looks like?

Other thing is all those really quick bowlers how effective would they be today considering the 2 bouncer rule and all the body protection available?

Monk · 25-10-2012, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jager

I can only assume you're off your rocker

- where's Barry Richards!?

Not off my rocker just yet, only early on Friday arvo!

I just like to throw something in there from time to time.

FTR, Boycott had a better FC average than B. Richards (not that it matters much!)

And B. Richards was excellent, no doubt. But his 4 tests aren't enough to judge him on.

Worth considering how consistent Boycott was against all countries in all conditions imo...

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Jager · 26-10-2012, 01:29 AM

Sticky XI

1. Jack Hobbs
2. Herbert Sutcliffe
3. Victor Trumper
4. Neil Harvey
5. Stanley Jackson (5)
6. VVS Laxman
7. Syed Kirmani †
8. Hedley Verity (3)
9. Anil Kumble (4)
10. Bill O'Reilly (2)
11. Sydney Barnes (1)

Includes some hunch picks.

smalishah84 · 26-10-2012, 01:56 AM

that looks like a lot of hunch picks

Satyanash89 · 26-10-2012, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bagapath

Debuted after Tendulkar, retired before him XI

Hayden
Anwar
Dravid
Lara
Inzamam
Gilchrist (wk)
S. Pollock
Warne
Murali
McGrath
Donald

Wow, you can quote all the stats you want but that right there shows Tendulkars greatness. Astonishing longevity.. really hope he manages to turn it around and end on a high... if anyone deserves to ride off into the sunset its him

smalishah84 · 26-10-2012, 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satyanash89

Wow, you can quote all the stats you want but that right there shows Tendulkars greatness. Astonishing longevity.. really hope he manages to turn it around and end on a high... if anyone deserves to ride off into the sunset its him

AndyZaltzHair · 26-10-2012, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jager

Sticky XI

1. Jack Hobbs
2. Herbert Sutcliffe
3. Victor Trumper
4. Neil Harvey
5. Stanley Jackson (5)
6. VVS Laxman
7. Syed Kirmani †
8. Hedley Verity (3)
9. Anil Kumble (4)
10. Bill O'Reilly (2)
11. Sydney Barnes (1)

Includes some hunch picks.

Good idea. My take on sticky XI-

1. Jack Hobbs
2. Herbert Sutcliffe
3. George Headley
4. Herbie Taylor
5. Victor Trumper
6. Les Ames+
7. Monty Noble
8. Hedley Verity
9. George Lohmann
10. Fred Spofforth
11. Sydney Barnes

a massive zebra · 26-10-2012, 12:23 PM

Apologies for my ignorance, but what is a sticky XI?

kyear2 · 26-10-2012, 01:43 PM

Players who excelled on wet wickets, batting or bowling.

How about Laker?

a massive zebra · 26-10-2012, 01:49 PM

Ah I understand now, sticky wicket XI, thanks.

Spooony · 26-10-2012, 07:35 PM

Sutcliffe
Hutton
Bradman
Kallis
S Waugh
Chanderpaul
Gilchrist
Thomas Richardson,
George Lohmann
Malcolm Marshall
Mendis

Jager · 26-10-2012, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooony

Sutcliffe
Hutton
Bradman
Kallis
S Waugh
Chanderpaul
Gilchrist
Thomas Richardson,
George Lohmann
Malcolm Marshall
Mendis

Is that a sticky wicket XI?

Satyanash89 · 26-10-2012, 07:45 PM

Underwood was unplayable on wet wickets from what ive read

AndyZaltzHair · 26-10-2012, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satyanash89

Underwood was unplayable on wet wickets from what ive read

Yeah he was a monster on wet wickets, just misses out

Quote:

Not a classical spinner, Underwood bowled at around medium pace and was often unplayable on seaming English wickets, particularly sticky wickets, earning his nickname 'Deadly', and accounting for the saying that England would "carry Underwood like an umbrella, in case of rain".

26-10-2012, 01:56 AM	#980 (permalink)
smalishah84 Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: dxb Posts: 18,862	that looks like a lot of hunch picks __________________ And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW Yeah we don't crap in the first world; most of us would actually have no idea what that was emanating from Ajmal's backside. Why isn't it roses and rainbows like what happens here? PEWS's retort to Ganeshran on Daemon's picture depicting Ajmal's excreta

26-10-2012, 12:23 PM	#984 (permalink)
a massive zebra International Debutant Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: on my ass @ the PC Posts: 2,775	Apologies for my ignorance, but what is a sticky XI? __________________ THE ULTIMATE CRICKET WEB ARCADE EGGS CHAMPION RIP Fardin Qayyumi (AKA "cricket player"; "Bob"), 1990-2006 RIP Craig Walsh (AKA "Craig"), 1985-2012

26-10-2012, 01:43 PM	#985 (permalink)
kyear2 International Debutant Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: w.i Posts: 2,514	Players who excelled on wet wickets, batting or bowling. How about Laker? __________________ 1st XI Hutton \| Hobbs \| Bradman \| Richards \| Tendulkar \| Sobers \| Gilchrist \| Khan \| Marshall \| Warne \| McGrath 2nd XI Sutcliffe \| Gavaskar \| Headley \| Chappell \| Lara \| Kallis \| Miller \| Knott \| Ambrose \| Lillee \| Muralitharan 3rd XI Greenidge \| Morris \| Ponting \| Pollock \| Hammond \| Worrell \| Ames \| Hadlee \| Holding \| Trueman \| O'Reilly 4th XI Richards \| Simpson \| Sangakkara \| Weekes \| Border \| Walcott \| Botham \| Lindwall \| Laker \| Garner \| Barnes

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25-10-2012, 11:12 PM	#977 (permalink)
Spooony Banned Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: In a cardboard box Posts: 192	Just pondering something. Did Bradman knew in his time what reverse swing was and what a sub continent pitch looks like? Other thing is all those really quick bowlers how effective would they be today considering the 2 bouncer rule and all the body protection available?

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Jager International Debutant Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: The land of Siddle Posts: 2,876	Sticky XI 1. Jack Hobbs 2. Herbert Sutcliffe 3. Victor Trumper 4. Neil Harvey 5. Stanley Jackson (5) 6. VVS Laxman 7. Syed Kirmani † 8. Hedley Verity (3) 9. Anil Kumble (4) 10. Bill O'Reilly (2) 11. Sydney Barnes (1) Includes some hunch picks.

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a massive zebra International Debutant Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: on my ass @ the PC Posts: 2,775	Ah I understand now, sticky wicket XI, thanks.

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Spooony Banned Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: In a cardboard box Posts: 192	Sutcliffe Hutton Bradman Kallis S Waugh Chanderpaul Gilchrist Thomas Richardson, George Lohmann Malcolm Marshall Mendis

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Satyanash89 Banned Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Pune, India Posts: 816	Underwood was unplayable on wet wickets from what ive read

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