The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread - Page 61

NUFAN · 24-10-2012, 05:38 AM

There is no way that Jager would name Miller at 6!

Jager · 24-10-2012, 05:51 AM

Cheers boys for pointing out every one of my ridiculous cricketing outlooks at once

Jager · 24-10-2012, 06:02 AM

How good would this team be - my spidey sense is tingling just looking at it

1. Jack Hobbs
2. Herbert Sutcliffe
3. Barry Richards
4. Don Bradman
5. Keith Miller*
6. Archie Jackson/Garfield Sobers (mood dependant)
7. Mike Procter
8. Alan Davidson
9. Don Tallon †
10. Shane Warnie
11. Waqar Younis/Malcolm Marshall/Bill O'Reilly (mood dependant)

Prince EWS · 24-10-2012, 06:13 AM

Leaving Sobers out. That's a new one.

watson · 24-10-2012, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jager

How good would this team be - my spidey sense is tingling just looking at it

1. Jack Hobbs
2. Herbert Sutcliffe
3. Barry Richards
4. Don Bradman
5. Keith Miller*
6. Archie Jackson/Garfield Sobers (mood dependant)
7. Mike Procter
8. Alan Davidson
9. Don Tallon †
10. Shane Warnie
11. Waqar Younis/Malcolm Marshall/Bill O'Reilly (mood dependant)

I hate to admit it but with Gary and Malcolm included - it works.

Jager · 24-10-2012, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince EWS

Leaving Sobers out. That's a new one.

I rate Sobers second/third with the bat at the moment - Archie's just a tantalising idea that struggle to say no to

The Sean · 24-10-2012, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watson

Was it?

01. Archie Jackson
02. Victor Trumper
03. Barry Richards
04. Keith Miller
05. Keith Miller
06. Keith Miller
07. Don Tallon
08. Harold Larwood
09. Harold Larwood
10. Harold Larwood
11. Hedley Verity

****ing ridiculous team. Nowhere near enough Miller.

kyear2 · 24-10-2012, 06:41 AM

How can Sobers be mood dependent? Also works better with Richards opening instead of the ultimate stonewaller Sutcliffe and Bradman in his natural position.
Also Miller in the top order seriously weakens that batting line up unneccecerily, especially with Tallon in the side. Marshall also mood dependent and Davidson isn't.
Very strange team.

Jager · 24-10-2012, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyear2

How can Sobers be mood dependent? Also works better with Richards opening instead of the ultimate stonewaller Sutcliffe and Bradman in his natural position.
Also Miller at 5 seriously weakens that batting line up unneccecerily.

Well thinking rationally I'd always have Sobers. Not sure how Sutcliffe is 'the ultimate stonewaller' tbh.

Jager · 24-10-2012, 07:00 AM

Also for the record the team I posted is not my absolute World XI, although the top 4 and wicketkeeper are spot on.

Eds · 24-10-2012, 10:49 AM

Interesting that Jager picks Tallon based solely on his wicketkeeping - one of the very few areas of cricket there's no accurate stat you can use to determine one's ability.

8ankitj · 24-10-2012, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a massive zebra

My turn.

World
Jack Hobbs
Sunil Gavaskar
Don Bradman*
Sachin Tendulkar
Wally Hammond
Garry Sobers
Adam Gilchrist+
Imran Khan
Malcolm Marshall
Muttiah Muralitharan
Sydney Barnes

Your world team is closest to mine. I will replace Tendulkar and Hammond with G. Pollock and Hadlee. Will keep the other 9.

kyear2 · 24-10-2012, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jager

Also for the record the team I posted is not my absolute World XI, although the top 4 and wicketkeeper are spot on.

So what is your absolue World XI.

a massive zebra · 24-10-2012, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8ankitj

Your world team is closest to mine. I will replace Tendulkar and Hammond with G. Pollock and Hadlee. Will keep the other 9.

We definitely have similar ways of thinking. Pollock vs Tendulkar was a close call. Went for Tendulkar simply because he has been fortunate enough to have the opportunity to prove himself at the highest level all over the world and for a much longer period of time than Pollock. Hadlee would be my first choice replacement for Imran, Marshall or Barnes if any of them got injured.

watson · 24-10-2012, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jager

How good would this team be - my spidey sense is tingling just looking at it

1. Jack Hobbs
2. Herbert Sutcliffe
3. Barry Richards
4. Don Bradman
5. Keith Miller*
6. Archie Jackson/Garfield Sobers (mood dependant)
7. Mike Procter
8. Alan Davidson
9. Don Tallon †
10. Shane Warnie
11. Waqar Younis/Malcolm Marshall/Bill O'Reilly (mood dependant)

Since Barry Richards is in the team then we may as well re-establish the Richards-Pollock partnership to see if they can go one better than their famous Durban knock. Also, Knott is in the side for Tallon because he's just as good at keeping but can bat.

01. Jack Hobbs
02. Barry Richards
03. Don Bradman
04. Graeme Pollock
05. Keith Miller*
06. Garfield Sobers
07. Mike Procter
08. Alan Knott †
09. Alan Davidson
10. Shane Warnie
11. Malcolm Marshall

Ah, that's better. Order in the Universe restored.

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kyear2 International Debutant Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: w.i Posts: 2,500	How can Sobers be mood dependent? Also works better with Richards opening instead of the ultimate stonewaller Sutcliffe and Bradman in his natural position. Also Miller in the top order seriously weakens that batting line up unneccecerily, especially with Tallon in the side. Marshall also mood dependent and Davidson isn't. Very strange team. __________________ 1st XI Hutton \| Hobbs \| Bradman \| Richards \| Tendulkar \| Sobers \| Gilchrist \| Khan \| Marshall \| Warne \| McGrath 2nd XI Sutcliffe \| Gavaskar \| Headley \| Chappell \| Lara \| Kallis \| Miller \| Knott \| Ambrose \| Lillee \| Muralitharan 3rd XI Greenidge \| Morris \| Ponting \| Pollock \| Hammond \| Worrell \| Ames \| Hadlee \| Holding \| Trueman \| O'Reilly 4th XI Richards \| Simpson \| Sangakkara \| Weekes \| Border \| Walcott \| Botham \| Lindwall \| Laker \| Garner \| Barnes Last edited by kyear2; 24-10-2012 at 06:53 AM.

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NUFAN International Coach Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NSW Posts: 13,737	There is no way that Jager would name Miller at 6!

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Jager International Debutant Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: The land of Siddle Posts: 2,876	How good would this team be - my spidey sense is tingling just looking at it 1. Jack Hobbs 2. Herbert Sutcliffe 3. Barry Richards 4. Don Bradman 5. Keith Miller* 6. Archie Jackson/Garfield Sobers (mood dependant) 7. Mike Procter 8. Alan Davidson 9. Don Tallon † 10. Shane Warnie 11. Waqar Younis/Malcolm Marshall/Bill O'Reilly (mood dependant)

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Jager International Debutant Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: The land of Siddle Posts: 2,876	Also for the record the team I posted is not my absolute World XI, although the top 4 and wicketkeeper are spot on.

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