h_hurricane
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Bradman might average 100 in India(unproven between), but Lillee would average 100 as well. Kind of cancels out.
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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread
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Burgey
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I think there was an Indian poster on here many years ago who suggested Bradman would certainly have been brought back to earth if he had to face Irfan Pathan, so certainly Ishant would prove far too much for him.
srbhkshk
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Gotta put him against Sreesanth to have a fair (no pun intended) match up.
h_hurricane
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Bradman vs Shahbaz Nadeem will be interesting. One guy averages 10 in India(more than twice the ATG level). Other guy never played in India. Bring it on..
h_hurricane
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I can imagine Ganesh softening up Bradman with a few short pitched deliveries and then throwing a wide one. The show would end with Bradman wafting at it in Michael Slater style to Laxman/Dravid in slips.
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Any of these above guys would be fine. Even Ganguly took wickets opening the bowling against Australia at home.
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...alia-2nd-test-australia-tour-of-india-1997-98
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...alia-2nd-test-australia-tour-of-india-1997-98
Also, Warne would be murdered by all time Indian Xi batting.
I think all time WI and SA Xi have better shot in India than Aus.
SA have two proven bowlers in India in Donald and Steyn; and Pollock didn’t do that bad either iirc. Great WI bowlers also did well in India. Of course all this is merely conjecture and we will never know.
I think all time WI and SA Xi have better shot in India than Aus.
SA have two proven bowlers in India in Donald and Steyn; and Pollock didn’t do that bad either iirc. Great WI bowlers also did well in India. Of course all this is merely conjecture and we will never know.
CricAddict
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This is quite logical. The ATG Aussie team can always draw the games in India with Bradman, Smith et al getting massive tons while the WI and SA teams might win matches with their bowling.
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Ganguly tore it up as a dibbly dobbly bowler in that Toronto odi series.
ankitj
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Yes, best bowler and best batsman on either side in 1997. 4 consecutive MoM awards in 5 match series.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?id=751;type=series
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/bowling/most_wickets_career.html?id=751;type=series
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Prince EWS
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By the standards of Indian seam bowling at that time, Ganguly was definitely an allrounder, or at least someone who definitely would have looked like one at youth/domestic level. Mahlea Jayawardene similarly was an emerging allrounder before international cricket. Both ultimately decided that putting lots of work in to bowl lots but still average high 40s with the ball at the level they were going to play wasn't really worth it.
stephen
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I wouldn't play Warne in India, I'd play O'Reilly. He was much faster through the air and by all reports sounds like a better Kumble.
It's not like McGrath was unproven in India either. He was very good, he just didn't have a memorable huge haul like Steyn did.
h_hurricane
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O'Reilly was an ATG and one of the finest spinners ever, but how do we take it for granted that he would be a sure shot success against the best group of players against spin, just because of his style of bowling ? After all, he never played in India.
Agree on the Mcgrath part.
kyear2
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Don't think it's the kind of spin you bowl. It's that they play spin exceptionally well. Not think that would be the best course of action.
Slifer
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Still Stephen, there is every likelihood that the likes of Sehwag etc would rip Oreilly apart just like they've done to every other spinner (especially leg spinners). Which leaves the great McGrath, unproven Lillee one of Davidson, Lindwall or Miller. Yeah India are going to pile up the runs at home. Sorry to doubt about that in my mind. And it took a lone Harbajan Singh to bring the mighty peak Oz batting lineup to it's knees, add in Ashwin or Kumble or Jadeja or Gupte or Chandra etc + at home. Yeah good luck Australia or any other atg for that matter.
Slifer
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If this is the case, then we're better off picking atg squads. I'd say 15 players for each team.