The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

[a massive zebra]

The Yorkshire All Time XI is also immensely strong when one considers that England has 18 domestic teams. Plenty of very big names...

Herbert Sutcliffe
Geoff Boycott
Len Hutton*
Maurice Leyland
Darren Lehmann/Stanley Jackson
George Hirst
Wilfred Rhodes
Jonny Bairstow+
Hedley Verity
Fred Trueman
George Freeman/Bill Bowes

[Howe_zat]

Sir Len never gets to open.

Edit: Also we have Sachin Tendulkar

[a massive zebra]

Originally Posted by Howe_zat

Sir Len never gets to open.

Edit: Also we have Sachin Tendulkar

Tendulkar would only merit consideration if team selection was based on calibre of batsmen rather than performances for, and form while at, the county.

I know he was only 17 at the time he played for Yorkshire but his performances really were not ATG material - 1 century in 25 innings with an average in the mid 40s.

[NUFAN]

Bairstow the best keeper in Yorkshire's long history? He sticks out a bit.

[fredfertang]

Originally Posted by NUFAN

Bairstow the best keeper in Yorkshire's long history? He sticks out a bit.

One department that they're not overly strong in - Jimmy Binks, Don Brennan, Arthir Wood, Arthur Dolphin and David Hunter are five that spring to mind, but imo Bairstow isn't a bad call

[doesitmatter]

Bombay(Mumbai) XI ..Batting at its best..bowling if the pitch spins look out..

Gavaskar
Merchant
Hazare
Tendulkar
Vengsarkar/Sandeep Patil/Ravi Shastri
Mankad
Engineer
Ajit Agarkar/Ghavri
Shivalkar
Zaheer Khan
Subhash Gupte

[NUFAN]

Originally Posted by fredfertang

One department that they're not overly strong in - Jimmy Binks, Don Brennan, Arthir Wood, Arthur Dolphin and David Hunter are five that spring to mind, but imo Bairstow isn't a bad call

Thanks mate. I was just curious, only name I know is Arthur Dolphin and that's only due to the 'cod you do better' thread.

[JBMAC]

1.Sam Trimble
2.Bill Brown
3.Stuart Law
4.Ken Mackay
5.Peter Burge
6.Greg Richie
7.Wally Grout[keeper]
8.Tom Veivers
9.Carl Rackeman
10.Craig McDermott
11.Geoff Dymock
12.Phillip Carlson.[12th man]
I went for the "best" homegrown side.All Qlders....No Botham Surti,Richards,Chappell,Border or Thompson.All these players played Tests.Sam Trimble even was Captain of a Second eleven that toured NZ.It was adifficult side to select
.Even though most players had test caps,Qld never won "the Sheffield Shield" but their players performed magically at times in some superhuman feats of our game.I selected Grout over Healy because he[grout] was A Tallon Protege
and did more "first" in the game. eg 6 dissmissals in a match
It,s strange really with talent like that available it took us until about 1995 to win the Shield

[Monk]

Originally Posted by JBMAC

1.Sam Trimble
2.Bill Brown
3.Stuart Law
4.Ken Mackay
5.Peter Burge
6.Greg Richie
7.Wally Grout[keeper]
8.Tom Veivers
9.Carl Rackeman
10.Craig McDermott
11.Geoff Dymock
12.Phillip Carlson.[12th man]
I went for the "best" homegrown side.All Qlders....No Botham Surti,Richards,Chappell,Border or Thompson.All these players played Tests.Sam Trimble even was Captain of a Second eleven that toured NZ.It was adifficult side to select
.Even though most players had test caps,Qld never won "the Sheffield Shield" but their players performed magically at times in some superhuman feats of our game.I selected Grout over Healy because he[grout] was A Tallon Protege
and did more "first" in the game. eg 6 dissmissals in a match
It,s strange really with talent like that available it took us until about 1995 to win the Shield

Hayden?

[JBMAC]

Originally Posted by Monk

Hayden?

Does not rate in that company.Interested in your ideas as to why though

[watson]

Hayden is several thousand runs better than Greg Ritchie who resembled a beach ball. Bill Brown could easily slot into the vacant No.6 spot because he occasionally batted down the order for Australia, and then Hayden can blast away at the top of the order. Unless he's facing Hoggard; then he'll have to take it easy.

[Monk]

Originally Posted by JBMAC

Does not rate in that company.Interested in your ideas as to why though

I'm far from Hayden's biggest fan, but he's surely the greatest opener Qld have produced?

103 tests for an avg of 50.

And 295 FC games at an avg of 52. Great servant of his state, as they say...

You'd have to have him over Trimble? And certainly over Greg Ritchie?

[Monk]

I'm far from knowledgable on Qld cricket, but if we're leaving out imports, I'd probably look at...


Matthew Hayden
Bill Brown
Martin Love
Peter Burge
Stuart Law
Andrew Symonds
Ian Healy/Wally Grout (either)
Tom Veivers
Michael Kasprowiczcxjkczx
Craig McDermott
Geoff Dymock

[fredfertang]

Eddie Gilbert?

[JBMAC]

Originally Posted by Monk

I'm far from Hayden's biggest fan, but he's surely the greatest opener Qld have produced?

103 tests for an avg of 50.

And 295 FC games at an avg of 52. Great servant of his state, as they say...

You'd have to have him over Trimble? And certainly over Greg Ritchie?

Definitely not over "slammin" Sam.The Fat Cat maybe