The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

[Dan]

Originally Posted by watson

I don't understand

(There is also Warren Bardsley)

The Archie Jackson story | Cricket Features | Wisden Cricket Monthly | ESPN Cricinfo

There was just something about Jackson - sure, his death may have resulted in some hyperbole-driven writing, but he could clearly bat. To have done what he did by the age of 22 is incredible, and who knows what he could have achieved in a full career. Sure, it's the kind of 'what if' that seems to now be taboo on here, but in my mind there was no way that he would have failed.

Now I love Michael Slater; he's one of my favourite batsmen of the past 2 decades, but for all his aggression and success, he just doesn't compare with Jackson. Tubby, even with the 334* and as a fantastic captain, was nowhere near as impressive as Jackson was while he was alive.

In my mind, an all-time New South Wales XI would not be complete without Jackson. To me, he was just as good as anyone to have picked up a bat.

[NUFAN]

I would be interested in seeing some state teams composed based on actual performances in state cricket.

[Howe_zat]

If we're talking about all-time domestic sides we've got to have a look at Barbados:

Gordon Greenidge
Desmond Haynes
Conrad Hunte
Frank Worrell*
Everton Weekes
Garfield Sobers
Clyde Walcott
Malcolm Marshall
Wes Hall
Charlie Griffifth
Joel Garner

This coming from an island with roughly the population of Leicester. And I had to leave out Tino Best!

[smalishah84]

Originally Posted by rvd619323

Tubby, even with the 334* and as a fantastic captain, was nowhere near as impressive as Jackson was while he was alive.

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I don't think Tubby, being fat that he is, would be as impressive as Jackson when he is dead

[smalishah84]

Originally Posted by Howe_zat

This coming from an island with roughly the population of Leicester. And I had to leave out Tino Best!

how dare you

[watson]

Originally Posted by rvd619323

The Archie Jackson story | Cricket Features | Wisden Cricket Monthly | ESPN Cricinfo

There was just something about Jackson - sure, his death may have resulted in some hyperbole-driven writing, but he could clearly bat. To have done what he did by the age of 22 is incredible, and who knows what he could have achieved in a full career. Sure, it's the kind of 'what if' that seems to now be taboo on here, but in my mind there was no way that he would have failed.

Now I love Michael Slater; he's one of my favourite batsmen of the past 2 decades, but for all his aggression and success, he just doesn't compare with Jackson. Tubby, even with the 334* and as a fantastic captain, was nowhere near as impressive as Jackson was while he was alive.

In my mind, an all-time New South Wales XI would not be complete without Jackson. To me, he was just as good as anyone to have picked up a bat.

Fair enough, and who am I to say otherwise if that's the way you feel

[Jager]

Would definitely have to agree with rvd here - his achievements at 22 were remarkable and obviously never had the chance to flourish as a healthy man, let alone hit his peak at an older age.

[Cabinet96]

Great effort there Dan.

Originally Posted by Prince EWS

Here's an all-time eleven consisting purely of players who played for New South Wales:

1. Bob Simpson
2. Victor Trumper
3. Don Bradman
4. Neil Harvey
5. Allan Border
6. Keith Miller
7. Adam Gilchrist
8. Alan Davidson
9. Ray Lindwall
10. Bill O'Reilly
11. Glenn McGrath

Others: Steve Waugh, Mark Taylor, Arthur Morris, Michael Clarke, Doug Walters, Richie Benaud, Charlie Turner, Monty Noble, Fred Spofforth, Richard Quee Chee etc etc..

Jesus. That would be a pretty strong Australian all time team.

Originally Posted by Howe_zat

If we're talking about all-time domestic sides we've got to have a look at Barbados:

Gordon Greenidge
Desmond Haynes
Conrad Hunte
Frank Worrell*
Everton Weekes
Garfield Sobers
Clyde Walcott
Malcolm Marshall
Wes Hall
Charlie Griffifth
Joel Garner

This coming from an island with roughly the population of Leicester. And I had to leave out Tino Best!

Remarkably strong. Wonder who would win an all time Barbados XI v an all time NSW XI?

[Jager]

I think NSW would, far better bowling + Sir Donald.

[kyear2]

Barbados XI

Gordon Greenidge
Conrad Hunte
Frank Worrell
Everton Weekes
Garry Sobers
Clyde Walcott
Seymour Nurse
Malcolm Marshall
Joel Garner
Wes Hall
Sylvester Clarke

[smalishah84]

that is some barbados XI

[The Sean]

Originally Posted by Jager

I think NSW would, far better bowling + Sir Donald.

NSW's attack probably stronger and better balanced overall but I don't reckon there's such a thing as an attack that's far better than one which reads Marshall-Garner-Hall-Griffith-Sobers-Worrell.

[fredfertang]

Originally Posted by Howe_zat

If we're talking about all-time domestic sides we've got to have a look at Barbados:

Gordon Greenidge
Desmond Haynes
Conrad Hunte
Frank Worrell*
Everton Weekes
Garfield Sobers
Clyde Walcott
Malcolm Marshall
Wes Hall
Charlie Griffifth
Joel Garner

This coming from an island with roughly the population of Leicester. And I had to leave out Tino Best!

More to the point you left out the mighty Sylvers

[kyear2]

Yea, him and Seymoure Nurse were drafted into mine.

[Howe_zat]

Originally Posted by fredfertang

More to the point you left out the mighty Sylvers

Like a moth.