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    I don't understand

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    There was just something about Jackson - sure, his death may have resulted in some hyperbole-driven writing, but he could clearly bat. To have done what he did by the age of 22 is incredible, and who knows what he could have achieved in a full career. Sure, it's the kind of 'what if' that seems to now be taboo on here, but in my mind there was no way that he would have failed.

    Now I love Michael Slater; he's one of my favourite batsmen of the past 2 decades, but for all his aggression and success, he just doesn't compare with Jackson. Tubby, even with the 334* and as a fantastic captain, was nowhere near as impressive as Jackson was while he was alive.

    In my mind, an all-time New South Wales XI would not be complete without Jackson. To me, he was just as good as anyone to have picked up a bat.
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    I would be interested in seeing some state teams composed based on actual performances in state cricket.

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    If we're talking about all-time domestic sides we've got to have a look at Barbados:

    Gordon Greenidge
    Desmond Haynes
    Conrad Hunte
    Frank Worrell*
    Everton Weekes
    Garfield Sobers
    Clyde Walcott
    Malcolm Marshall
    Wes Hall
    Charlie Griffifth
    Joel Garner

    This coming from an island with roughly the population of Leicester. And I had to leave out Tino Best!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rvd619323 View Post
    Tubby, even with the 334* and as a fantastic captain, was nowhere near as impressive as Jackson was while he was alive.

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    I don't think Tubby, being fat that he is, would be as impressive as Jackson when he is dead
    And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    This coming from an island with roughly the population of Leicester. And I had to leave out Tino Best!
    how dare you

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    Quote Originally Posted by rvd619323 View Post
    The Archie Jackson story | Cricket Features | Wisden Cricket Monthly | ESPN Cricinfo

    There was just something about Jackson - sure, his death may have resulted in some hyperbole-driven writing, but he could clearly bat. To have done what he did by the age of 22 is incredible, and who knows what he could have achieved in a full career. Sure, it's the kind of 'what if' that seems to now be taboo on here, but in my mind there was no way that he would have failed.

    Now I love Michael Slater; he's one of my favourite batsmen of the past 2 decades, but for all his aggression and success, he just doesn't compare with Jackson. Tubby, even with the 334* and as a fantastic captain, was nowhere near as impressive as Jackson was while he was alive.

    In my mind, an all-time New South Wales XI would not be complete without Jackson. To me, he was just as good as anyone to have picked up a bat.
    Fair enough, and who am I to say otherwise if that's the way you feel
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    Would definitely have to agree with rvd here - his achievements at 22 were remarkable and obviously never had the chance to flourish as a healthy man, let alone hit his peak at an older age.
    Oh for a strong arm and a walking stick

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    Great effort there Dan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    Here's an all-time eleven consisting purely of players who played for New South Wales:

    1. Bob Simpson
    2. Victor Trumper
    3. Don Bradman
    4. Neil Harvey
    5. Allan Border
    6. Keith Miller
    7. Adam Gilchrist
    8. Alan Davidson
    9. Ray Lindwall
    10. Bill O'Reilly
    11. Glenn McGrath

    Others: Steve Waugh, Mark Taylor, Arthur Morris, Michael Clarke, Doug Walters, Richie Benaud, Charlie Turner, Monty Noble, Fred Spofforth, Richard Quee Chee etc etc..
    Jesus. That would be a pretty strong Australian all time team.


    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    If we're talking about all-time domestic sides we've got to have a look at Barbados:

    Gordon Greenidge
    Desmond Haynes
    Conrad Hunte
    Frank Worrell*
    Everton Weekes
    Garfield Sobers
    Clyde Walcott
    Malcolm Marshall
    Wes Hall
    Charlie Griffifth
    Joel Garner

    This coming from an island with roughly the population of Leicester. And I had to leave out Tino Best!
    Remarkably strong. Wonder who would win an all time Barbados XI v an all time NSW XI?
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    This English top three are cornflakes. They're not the most exciting thing out but they're pretty effective. Then the middle order are the sugar. Would be too much on their own but added to the cornflakes they add some much needed interest

    When KP returns he will be the banana..

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    I think NSW would, far better bowling + Sir Donald.

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    Barbados XI

    Gordon Greenidge
    Conrad Hunte
    Frank Worrell
    Everton Weekes
    Garry Sobers
    Clyde Walcott
    Seymour Nurse
    Malcolm Marshall
    Joel Garner
    Wes Hall
    Sylvester Clarke
    Aus. XI
    Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2


    W.I. XI
    Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4

    S.A. XI
    Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Waite+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2

    Eng. XI
    Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3

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    that is some barbados XI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    I think NSW would, far better bowling + Sir Donald.
    NSW's attack probably stronger and better balanced overall but I don't reckon there's such a thing as an attack that's far better than one which reads Marshall-Garner-Hall-Griffith-Sobers-Worrell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    If we're talking about all-time domestic sides we've got to have a look at Barbados:

    Gordon Greenidge
    Desmond Haynes
    Conrad Hunte
    Frank Worrell*
    Everton Weekes
    Garfield Sobers
    Clyde Walcott
    Malcolm Marshall
    Wes Hall
    Charlie Griffifth
    Joel Garner

    This coming from an island with roughly the population of Leicester. And I had to leave out Tino Best!
    More to the point you left out the mighty Sylvers

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    Yea, him and Seymoure Nurse were drafted into mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fredfertang View Post
    More to the point you left out the mighty Sylvers
    Like a moth.



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