Page 52 of 233 FirstFirst ... 242505152535462102152 ... LastLast
Results 766 to 780 of 3483
Like Tree211Likes

Thread: The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

  1. #766
    Dan
    Dan is offline
    Global Moderator / Cricket Web Staff Member Dan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    A small planet somewhere in the vicinity of Betelgeuse
    Posts
    6,738
    I don't see how a South African XI can not select Bruce Mitchell nor Aubrey Faulkner. Far and away the two best players they had prior to the Richards/Procter era.

    Bruce Mitchell
    Barry Richards
    Jacques Kallis
    Graeme Pollock
    Herbie Taylor
    Dudley Nourse
    Aubrey Faulkner
    Mike Procter *
    John Waite +
    Shaun Pollock
    Allan Donald
    (12th: AB de Villiers or Colin Bland)

    Could argue for an extra bowler, but I reckon Donald/Procter/Pollock/Faulkner/Kallis/Mitchell can more than handle duties. ABdV and Bland sharing specialist fieldsman duties. Jock Cameron harsh to miss out for Waite.
    My sworn enemy:
    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane View Post
    I hate s smith.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane View Post
    I give out points for style of which Steve(n) Smith has none.

  2. #767
    State 12th Man Flametree's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    New Zealand
    Posts
    727
    Quote Originally Posted by rvd619323 View Post
    I don't see how a South African XI can not select Bruce Mitchell nor Aubrey Faulkner. Far and away the two best players they had prior to the Richards/Procter era.

    Bruce Mitchell
    Barry Richards
    Jacques Kallis
    Graeme Pollock
    Herbie Taylor
    Dudley Nourse
    Aubrey Faulkner
    Mike Procter *
    John Waite +
    Shaun Pollock
    Allan Donald
    (12th: AB de Villiers or Colin Bland)

    Could argue for an extra bowler, but I reckon Donald/Procter/Pollock/Faulkner/Kallis/Mitchell can more than handle duties. ABdV and Bland sharing specialist fieldsman duties. Jock Cameron harsh to miss out for Waite.
    I always assumed Lindsay would be the keeper in a SA all-time side, but it seems most folk prefer Waite or Cameron?

    I like the above side, but I would take the extra bowler - Pollock at 10 seems a bit of a luxury. So Taylor out, the others up one place, and Tayfield at 10. Three top-class seam bowlers with one world class offie, Faulkner's wrist spin and Kallis's swing and bounce to back them up. It's the best balanced attack of any of these sides I think.

    Excluding le Roux and van der Bijl from consideration is tough but I tend to agree we can only consider test players. But if Barry Richards hadn't had that one series, would we all consider making an exception for him?

  3. #768
    Cricket Web: All-Time Legend smalishah84's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    IL
    Posts
    21,766
    Quote Originally Posted by 8ankitj View Post
    I'll put Vinoo Mankad in place of Kapil Dev
    Vinoo Mankad was more of a batting all rounder was he? What position did he usually bat in?
    And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW

    Yeah we don't crap in the first world; most of us would actually have no idea what that was emanating from Ajmal's backside. Why isn't it roses and rainbows like what happens here? PEWS's retort to Ganeshran on Daemon's picture depicting Ajmal's excreta

  4. #769
    International Debutant Jager's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    The land of Siddle
    Posts
    2,889
    Quote Originally Posted by Flametree View Post
    I always assumed Lindsay would be the keeper in a SA all-time side, but it seems most folk prefer Waite or Cameron?

    I like the above side, but I would take the extra bowler - Pollock at 10 seems a bit of a luxury. So Taylor out, the others up one place, and Tayfield at 10. Three top-class seam bowlers with one world class offie, Faulkner's wrist spin and Kallis's swing and bounce to back them up. It's the best balanced attack of any of these sides I think.

    Excluding le Roux and van der Bijl from consideration is tough but I tend to agree we can only consider test players. But if Barry Richards hadn't had that one series, would we all consider making an exception for him?
    Without hesitation for Barry Richards. I rank him third of all time at the moment.

    In regards to Lindsay, he's often favoured for his batting, but his keeping hasn't even close to Cameron/Waite from all accounts and he did only have one great series with the bat.
    Oh for a strong arm and a walking stick


  5. #770
    International Vice-Captain kyear2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    w.i
    Posts
    4,220
    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    Without hesitation for Barry Richards. I rank him third of all time at the moment.
    In regards to Lindsay, he's often favoured for his batting, but his keeping hasn't even close to Cameron/Waite from all accounts and he did only have one great series with the bat.
    Who do you rank second?
    Aus. XI
    Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2


    W.I. XI
    Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4

    S.A. XI
    Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Cameron+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2

    Eng. XI
    Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3

  6. #771
    International Debutant Jager's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    The land of Siddle
    Posts
    2,889
    Quote Originally Posted by kyear2 View Post
    Who do you rank second?
    Sobers by a whisker.

  7. #772
    Hall of Fame Member NUFAN's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Marrickville
    Posts
    18,246
    My turn.

    Australia XI
    1. Arthur Morris
    2. Bob Simpson
    3. Don Bradman
    4. Greg Chappell
    5. Allan Border
    6. Keith Miller
    7. Adam Gilchrist
    8. Alan Davidson
    9. Shane Warne
    10. Dennis Lillee
    11. Glenn McGrath


    West Indies XI
    1. Gordon Greenidge
    2. Conrad Hunte
    3. George Headley
    4. Viv Richards
    5. Brian Lara
    6. Garry Sobers
    7. Jeffrey Dujon
    8. Malcolm Marshall
    9. Michael Holding
    10. Joel Garner
    11. Curtly Ambrose


    South Africa XI
    1. Graeme Smith
    2. Barry Richards
    3. Jacques Kallis
    4. Graeme Pollock
    5. Dudley Nourse
    6. Aubrey Faulkner
    7. Denis Lindsay
    8. Mike Procter
    9. Dale Steyn
    10. Allan Donald
    11. Neil Adcock


    England XI
    1. Jack Hobbs
    2. Len Hutton
    3. Walter Hammond
    4. Denis Compton
    5. Kevin Pietersen
    6. Ian Botham
    7. Allan Knott
    8. Jim Laker
    9. Fred Trueman
    10. Frank Tyson
    11. Sydney Barnes


    Pakistan XI
    1. Saeed Anwar
    2. Hanif Mohammad
    3. Younis Khan
    4. Javed Miandad
    5. Inzaman Ul Haq
    6. Zaheer Abbas
    7. Imran Khan
    8. Wasim Bari
    9. Wasim Akram
    10. Abdul Qadir
    11. Waqar Younis


    India XI
    1. Sunil Gavaskar
    2. Vijay Merchant
    3. Rahul Dravid
    4. Sachin Tendulkar
    5. Mohammad Azharuddin
    6. Vinoo Mankad
    7. Kapil Dev
    8. Syed Kirmani
    9. Javagal Srinath
    10. Erapalli Prasanna
    11. Bhagwath Chandrasekhar


    Sri Lanka XI
    1. Sanath Jayasuriya
    2. Marvan Atapattu
    3. Kumar Sangakarra
    4. Aravinda de Silva
    5. Mahela Jayawardene
    6. Thilan Samareewa
    7. Prasanna Jayawardene
    8. Chaminda Vaas
    9. Rangana Herath
    10. Rumesh Ratnayake
    11. Muttiah Muralitharan


    New Zealand XI
    1. Glenn Turner
    2. Stewie Dempster
    3. Bert Sutcliffe
    4. Martin Crowe
    5. Martin Donnelly
    6. John R Reid
    7. Daniel Vettori
    8. Richard Hadlee
    9. Ian Smith
    10. Shane Bond
    11. Jack Cowie


    Zimbabwe XI
    1. Grant Flower
    2. Kevin Arnott
    3. Murray Goodwin
    4. Dave Houghton
    5. Andy Flower
    6. Sean Ervine
    7. Tatenda Taibu
    8. Heath Streak
    9. Paul Strang
    10. Henry Olonga
    11. Ray Price


    Bangladesh XI
    1. Tamin Iqbal
    2. Shahriar Nafees
    3. Habibul Bashar
    4. Aminul Islam
    5. Shakib Al Hasan
    6. Mushfiqur Rahim
    7. Khaled Mashud
    8. Mohammad Rafique
    9. Mashrafe Mortaza
    10. Shahadat Hossain
    11. Enamul Haque Jnr
    Last edited by NUFAN; 14-10-2012 at 02:56 AM.

  8. #773
    International Vice-Captain Mike5181's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    City of Sails
    Posts
    4,096
    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    My turn.

    Sri Lanka XI
    1. Sanath Jayasuriya
    2. Marvan Atapattu
    3. Kumar Sangakarra
    4. Aravinda de Silva
    5. Mahela Jayawardene
    6. Thilan Samareewa
    7. Prasanna Jayawardene
    8. Chaminda Vaas
    9. Rangana Herath
    10. Rumesh Ratnayake
    11. Muttiah Muralitharan
    Malinga has to be close to Ratnayake, surely.

  9. #774
    Hall of Fame Member NUFAN's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Marrickville
    Posts
    18,246
    Malinga is so close. The reason that Malinga did not get picked is due to his lack of endurance. Overall Malinga's test career was a bit of a disappointment for mine, he's close to gaining selection due to a lack of options but I just felt Ratnayake would do a better job for the team.

    In the SA XI, Adcock vs. Tayfield was another very difficult decision. I just thought the SA way was to bowl the quicks at every opportunity. Faulkner could bowl more if there was any spin.

  10. #775
    International Debutant Jager's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    The land of Siddle
    Posts
    2,889
    Exciting batting in the England XI Nuf, also gun effort to do Zim and Bang sides.

  11. #776
    Cricket Web: All-Time Legend smalishah84's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    IL
    Posts
    21,766
    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    My turn.

    Australia XI
    1. Arthur Morris
    2. Bob Simpson
    3. Don Bradman
    4. Greg Chappell
    5. Allan Border
    6. Keith Miller
    7. Adam Gilchrist
    8. Alan Davidson
    9. Shane Warne
    10. Dennis Lillee
    11. Glenn McGrath


    West Indies XI
    1. Gordon Greenidge
    2. Conrad Hunte
    3. George Headley
    4. Viv Richards
    5. Brian Lara
    6. Garry Sobers
    7. Jeffrey Dujon
    8. Malcolm Marshall
    9. Michael Holding
    10. Joel Garner
    11. Curtly Ambrose


    South Africa XI
    1. Graeme Smith
    2. Barry Richards
    3. Jacques Kallis
    4. Graeme Pollock
    5. Dudley Nourse
    6. Aubrey Faulkner
    7. Denis Lindsay
    8. Mike Procter
    9. Dale Steyn
    10. Allan Donald
    11. Neil Adcock


    England XI
    1. Jack Hobbs
    2. Len Hutton
    3. Walter Hammond
    4. Denis Compton
    5. Kevin Pietersen
    6. Ian Botham
    7. Allan Knott
    8. Jim Laker
    9. Fred Trueman
    10. Frank Tyson
    11. Sydney Barnes


    Pakistan XI
    1. Saeed Anwar
    2. Hanif Mohammad
    3. Younis Khan
    4. Javed Miandad
    5. Inzaman Ul Haq
    6. Zaheer Abbas
    7. Imran Khan
    8. Wasim Bari
    9. Wasim Akram
    10. Abdul Qadir
    11. Waqar Younis


    India XI
    1. Sunil Gavaskar
    2. Vijay Merchant
    3. Rahul Dravid
    4. Sachin Tendulkar
    5. Mohammad Azharuddin
    6. Vinoo Mankad
    7. Kapil Dev
    8. Syed Kirmani
    9. Javagal Srinath
    10. Erapalli Prasanna
    11. Bhagwath Chandrasekhar


    Sri Lanka XI
    1. Sanath Jayasuriya
    2. Marvan Atapattu
    3. Kumar Sangakarra
    4. Aravinda de Silva
    5. Mahela Jayawardene
    6. Thilan Samareewa
    7. Prasanna Jayawardene
    8. Chaminda Vaas
    9. Rangana Herath
    10. Rumesh Ratnayake
    11. Muttiah Muralitharan


    New Zealand XI
    1. Glenn Turner
    2. Stewie Dempster
    3. Bert Sutcliffe
    4. Martin Crowe
    5. Martin Donnelly
    6. John R Reid
    7. Daniel Vettori
    8. Richard Hadlee
    9. Ian Smith
    10. Shane Bond
    11. Jack Cowie


    Zimbabwe XI
    1. Grant Flower
    2. Kevin Arnott
    3. Murray Goodwin
    4. Dave Houghton
    5. Andy Flower
    6. Sean Ervine
    7. Tatenda Taibu
    8. Heath Streak
    9. Paul Strang
    10. Henry Olonga
    11. Ray Price


    Bangladesh XI
    1. Tamin Iqbal
    2. Shahriar Nafees
    3. Habibul Bashar
    4. Aminul Islam
    5. Shakib Al Hasan
    6. Mushfiqur Rahim
    7. Khaled Mashud
    8. Mohammad Rafique
    9. Mashrafe Mortaza
    10. Shahadat Hossain
    11. Enamul Haque Jnr
    Some very good teams there NUFAN. Good effort

  12. #777
    Hall of Fame Member NUFAN's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Marrickville
    Posts
    18,246
    The hardest players to leave out were Ricky Ponting and Frank Worrell.

    South Africa and India's keeping spots were difficult and Chris Cairns was very unlucky.

  13. #778
    International Vice-Captain kyear2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    w.i
    Posts
    4,220
    All Great teams nufan, especially like your Pakistan team. The only trend that is evident is that you consistently went quick over spin for every close decision. Faulkner, and please correct me if I am wrong, was a batsman who could bowl spin a bit and was greatly aided by the matting pitch. Not sure if the W.I would get through 90 overs playing four quicks and to add to that Sobers was a better seamer than spinner. If you do go 4 quicks Dujon is the better keeper choice. Don't want to be accused of Davo hating, but to me Linwall was a bit better, but if one is looking for variety to make up for the loss of the second spinner, Davo is a good pick. Great England team, no romatism picks and Tyson was soooo good.

  14. #779
    Hall of Fame Member NUFAN's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Marrickville
    Posts
    18,246
    The West Indies would never need to get through 90 overs in a day unless they were enforcing the follow on.

    I did go quicks over spin for West Indies, South Africa and I guess Australia, but for SL,NZ and Eng I went for the spinning option when some of the previous teams decided against it.

    Kyear and Jager, can you explain how Herath didn't make your SL team?

  15. #780
    International Vice-Captain kyear2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    w.i
    Posts
    4,220
    Honestly as I said previously not that big on S.L and N.Z cricket history.

    Nufan post your W.I, U.K and Aus teams in the other thread as well please.



Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Thread Hijacks
    By sledger in forum Site Discussion
    Replies: 90
    Last Post: 10-02-2010, 04:32 PM
  2. Sri Lanka Thread
    By chaminda_00 in forum 2009 ICC World Twenty20
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 05-05-2009, 05:29 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •