The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread - Page 4

Jager · 08-09-2012, 03:00 AM

In regards to your side Tangy, I'd switch Jardine to 5, making Hammond first drop and Compo following him in at 4. I'd also easily select Trueman over Statham, as much as I admire the latter.

Jager · 08-09-2012, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 8ankitj

Haha. General observation. A specific example will be picking Stan McCabe over Greg Chappell as mentioned in one of the posts in this thread. Not picking on someone but curious why there is an inclination to make such counter intuitive decisions?

I wonder what McCabe could have achieved with the bat had he not had to open the bowling in 19 of his 39 matches.

That being said, Chappell ranks before him in my eyes very comfortably

fredfertang · 08-09-2012, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Jager

In regards to your side Tangy, I'd switch Jardine to 5, making Hammond first drop and Compo following him in at 4. I'd also easily select Trueman over Statham, as much as I admire the latter.

Yes DRJ has to be a movable feast, as he was never much of a dasher - as to Fiery Fred I might in certain circumstances agree with you, but not when I have my red rose tinted spectacles on (which is 95% of the time), and on a more practical level I can't see Fred getting on with DRJ, or wanting to be Larwood and Botham's straight man

Jager · 08-09-2012, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by fredfertang

Yes DRJ has to be a movable feast, as he was never much of a dasher - as to Fiery Fred I might in certain circumstances agree with you, but not when I have my red rose tinted spectacles on (which is 95% of the time), and on a more practical level I can't see Fred getting on with DRJ, or wanting to be Larwood and Botham's straight man

Imagine Fred's anger when he's forced to bowl into the wind while Lol steams in from the other end

fredfertang · 08-09-2012, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jager

Imagine Fred's anger when he's forced to bowl into the wind while Lol steams in from the other end

...... especially if it was at Headingley

fredfertang · 08-09-2012, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jager

I wonder what McCabe could have achieved with the bat had he not had to open the bowling in 19 of his 39 matches.

That being said, Chappell ranks before him in my eyes very comfortably

I think McCabe is very possibly the most underrated player the game has seen, and indeed a while ago, I suspect before your time here, I wrote a feature explaining why - still it's his own fault as, rather like Keith Miller, he couldn't really be bothered if the going was too easy

Jager · 08-09-2012, 03:39 AM

Tangy's article: Cricket Web - Features: The All Time Great that CricketWeb forgot

halfway through reading it, will finish it once I get home!

MrPrez · 08-09-2012, 04:12 AM

Will have a go with an SA XI although I'm bound to miss out someone!

1)B.Richards
2)Smith
3)G.Pollock
4)Kallis
5)Nourse
6)Faulkner
7)Proctor
8)Boucher (+)
9)S.Pollock
10)Donald
11)Adcock

It's really impossible to pick the last 3 - Donald and Adcock were tough, but the real biggy was Shaun P vs Steyn vs Peter P. Went for Shaun based on the fact that he would give a variety to the bowling line up but on a different day my choice of last 3 spots would probably be vastly different.

smalishah84 · 08-09-2012, 04:50 AM

I'll take a shot at the Pakistan ATXI

Hanif Mohammad
Saeed Anwar
Inzamam ul Haq
Javed Miandad
Mohammad Yousuf
Salim Malik
Imran Khan (c)
Wasim Bari
Wasim Akram
Waqar Younis
Saqlain/Ajmal/Qadir

12th Man: Shoaib Akhtar

A pretty formidable line up

kyear2 · 08-09-2012, 05:26 AM

G. Smith
B. Richards
J. Kallis
G. Pollock
D. Nourse
A. Faulkner
D. Lindsay
M. Procter
S. Pollock / D. Steyn
H. Tayfield
A. Donald

Jager · 08-09-2012, 07:25 AM

1. Barry Richards
2. Bruce Mitchell
3. Jacques Kallis - 6
4. Graeme Pollock
5. Dudley Nourse
6. Aubrey Faulkner - 5
7. John Waite+
8. Mike Procter - 1
9. Hugh Tayfield - 4
10. Allan Donald - 2
11. Neil Adcock/Dale Steyn - 3

8ankitj · 08-09-2012, 07:36 AM

Bruce Mitchell
Barry Richards
Jacques Kallis
Greame Pollock
Dudley Nourse
Mike Procter
Dennis Lindsay +
Shaun Pollock
Hugh Tayfield
Dale Steyn
Allan Donald

Too harsh on Faulkner. But can't keep Steyn out any longer, and can't have Faulkner as the only spinner (in my mind he was a batting all-rounder).

kyear2 · 08-09-2012, 07:54 AM

Why the Graeme Smith hate? Record is very good and would captain team to boot. Trending Steyn over Pollock. Would keep Faulkner as Kallis can always help if more pace is required.

fredfertang · 08-09-2012, 08:14 AM

Richard is/was a fan of Fat Gray which, to some, is of itself reason enough to dislike him.

Herbie Taylor worthy of a mention, imo anyway

BoyBrumby · 08-09-2012, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by fredfertang

Richard is/was a fan of Fat Gray which, to some, is of itself reason enough to dislike him.

So many other good reasons to dislike Dicko too tho, tbf.

Yes, this post was in...

08-09-2012, 03:00 AM	#46 (permalink)
Jager International Debutant Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: The land of Siddle Posts: 2,876	In regards to your side Tangy, I'd switch Jardine to 5, making Hammond first drop and Compo following him in at 4. I'd also easily select Trueman over Statham, as much as I admire the latter. __________________ Oh for a strong arm and a walking stick

08-09-2012, 04:12 AM	#53 (permalink)
MrPrez First Class Debutant Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: South Africa Posts: 899	Will have a go with an SA XI although I'm bound to miss out someone! 1)B.Richards 2)Smith 3)G.Pollock 4)Kallis 5)Nourse 6)Faulkner 7)Proctor 8)Boucher (+) 9)S.Pollock 10)Donald 11)Adcock It's really impossible to pick the last 3 - Donald and Adcock were tough, but the real biggy was Shaun P vs Steyn vs Peter P. Went for Shaun based on the fact that he would give a variety to the bowling line up but on a different day my choice of last 3 spots would probably be vastly different. __________________ @CowsCorner - 151 followers and counting! Check out the blog too: http://cowscorner.wordpress.com Latest Blog post: Kallis – The Unsung Hero (Inspired by a debate right here on cricketweb!)

08-09-2012, 04:50 AM	#54 (permalink)
smalishah84 Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: dxb Posts: 18,863	I'll take a shot at the Pakistan ATXI Hanif Mohammad Saeed Anwar Inzamam ul Haq Javed Miandad Mohammad Yousuf Salim Malik Imran Khan (c) Wasim Bari Wasim Akram Waqar Younis Saqlain/Ajmal/Qadir 12th Man: Shoaib Akhtar A pretty formidable line up __________________ And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW Yeah we don't crap in the first world; most of us would actually have no idea what that was emanating from Ajmal's backside. Why isn't it roses and rainbows like what happens here? PEWS's retort to Ganeshran on Daemon's picture depicting Ajmal's excreta

08-09-2012, 05:26 AM	#55 (permalink)
kyear2 International Debutant Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: w.i Posts: 2,515	G. Smith B. Richards J. Kallis G. Pollock D. Nourse A. Faulkner D. Lindsay M. Procter S. Pollock / D. Steyn H. Tayfield A. Donald __________________ 1st XI Hutton \| Hobbs \| Bradman \| Richards \| Tendulkar \| Sobers \| Gilchrist \| Khan \| Marshall \| Warne \| McGrath 2nd XI Sutcliffe \| Gavaskar \| Headley \| Chappell \| Lara \| Kallis \| Miller \| Knott \| Ambrose \| Lillee \| Muralitharan 3rd XI Greenidge \| Morris \| Ponting \| Pollock \| Hammond \| Worrell \| Ames \| Hadlee \| Holding \| Trueman \| O'Reilly 4th XI Richards \| Simpson \| Sangakkara \| Weekes \| Border \| Walcott \| Botham \| Lindwall \| Laker \| Garner \| Barnes

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08-09-2012, 03:39 AM	#52 (permalink)
Jager International Debutant Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: The land of Siddle Posts: 2,876	Tangy's article: Cricket Web - Features: The All Time Great that CricketWeb forgot halfway through reading it, will finish it once I get home!

08-09-2012, 07:25 AM	#56 (permalink)
Jager International Debutant Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: The land of Siddle Posts: 2,876	1. Barry Richards 2. Bruce Mitchell 3. Jacques Kallis - 6 4. Graeme Pollock 5. Dudley Nourse 6. Aubrey Faulkner - 5 7. John Waite+ 8. Mike Procter - 1 9. Hugh Tayfield - 4 10. Allan Donald - 2 11. Neil Adcock/Dale Steyn - 3

08-09-2012, 07:36 AM	#57 (permalink)
8ankitj International Captain Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Hyderabad India Posts: 5,148	Bruce Mitchell Barry Richards Jacques Kallis Greame Pollock Dudley Nourse Mike Procter Dennis Lindsay + Shaun Pollock Hugh Tayfield Dale Steyn Allan Donald Too harsh on Faulkner. But can't keep Steyn out any longer, and can't have Faulkner as the only spinner (in my mind he was a batting all-rounder).

08-09-2012, 07:54 AM	#58 (permalink)
kyear2 International Debutant Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: w.i Posts: 2,515	Why the Graeme Smith hate? Record is very good and would captain team to boot. Trending Steyn over Pollock. Would keep Faulkner as Kallis can always help if more pace is required.

08-09-2012, 08:14 AM	#59 (permalink)
fredfertang Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: high dudgeon Posts: 9,741	Richard is/was a fan of Fat Gray which, to some, is of itself reason enough to dislike him. Herbie Taylor worthy of a mention, imo anyway

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