The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

[stephen]

So I believe most are in agreement that NSW is the strongest first class side in history based on the players who played regularly from there, but surely Queensland must hold the record for producing the best wicket keepers in history.

Healy
Grout
Tallon

All hail from Queensland. That's more ATG keepers than some countries have produced.

 

[jimmy101]

So I believe most are in agreement that NSW is the strongest first class side in history based on the players who played regularly from there, but surely Queensland must hold the record for producing the best wicket keepers in history.

Healy
Grout
Tallon

All hail from Queensland. That's more ATG keepers than some countries have produced.

Well, actually, Kent would have QLD beat I dare say.

Knott, Ames, Evans all played exclusively for Kent. You can also add Geraint Jones and Paul Downton to that list.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Well, actually, Kent would have QLD beat I dare say.

Knott, Ames, Evans all played exclusively for Kent. You can also add Geraint Jones and Paul Downton to that list.

Oh god he was a wicket keeper? I always thought he was a cardboard slab that they stuck behind the stumps that occasionally stopped the ball from going for 4 but that's about it

 

[mr_mister]

Well, actually, Kent would have QLD beat I dare say.

Knott, Ames, Evans all played exclusively for Kent. You can also add Geraint Jones and Paul Downton to that list.

that's pretty crazy.

Jock Cameron, Denis Lindsay and John Waite all played FC cricket for Transvaal

 

[TheJediBrah]

Hard to go past the might of Darren Berry, Adam Crosthwaite and Peter Roach for Victoria IMO

 

[jimmy101]

Oh god he was a wicket keeper? I always thought he was a cardboard slab that they stuck behind the stumps that occasionally stopped the ball from going for 4 but that's about it

My mistake!

 

[Coronis]

NSW All Time

Morris
Trumper
Bradman*
Smith
Bevan
Waugh
Gilchrist+ (kinda cheating but **** it)
Gregory
Lindwall
O'Reilly
McGrath

Cheated a bit to get Gilly there but oh well. Hurts not to have Border there, but he mainly played for Queensland. I'm sure I've forgotten someone. Benaud also quite unlucky to miss out.

 

[Red]

Davo over Gregory and whichever Waugh you didn’t pick over Bevan but pretty decent innit?

 

[steve132]

NSW All Time

Morris
Trumper
Bradman*
Smith
Bevan
Waugh
Gilchrist+ (kinda cheating but **** it)
Gregory
Lindwall
O'Reilly
McGrath

Cheated a bit to get Gilly there but oh well. Hurts not to have Border there, but he mainly played for Queensland. I'm sure I've forgotten someone. Benaud also quite unlucky to miss out.

This all time Barbados team would give them a run for their money:

Hunte
Greenidge
Worrell*
Weekes
Walcott
Sobers
Murray (David)
Marshall
Hall
Garner
Martindale

 

[TheJediBrah]

NSW All Time

Morris
Trumper
Bradman*
Smith
Bevan
Waugh
Gilchrist+ (kinda cheating but **** it)
Gregory
Lindwall
O'Reilly
McGrath

Cheated a bit to get Gilly there but oh well. Hurts not to have Border there, but he mainly played for Queensland. I'm sure I've forgotten someone. Benaud also quite unlucky to miss out.

Bevan? Really? We're talking Tests right? Or just First Class cricket?

He can't play anyway because he's skippering the ACT All Time XI

 

[morgieb]

If we're picking Bevan on FC form then Noble should be there, IMO.

 

[Coronis]

Davo over Gregory and whichever Waugh you didn’t pick over Bevan but pretty decent innit?

Completely forgot about Davison but yeah this ios the only non ODI XI Bevan gets a shot in! Absolutely smashed it for NSW.

 

[a massive zebra]

Completely forgot about Davison but yeah this ios the only non ODI XI Bevan gets a shot in! Absolutely smashed it for NSW.

Yeah Bevan's shield average of 63.57 was higher than any of his contemporaries, and significantly higher than any of them except Ponting (61.17). By means of comparison, Hayden averaged 54.85, Lehmann 54.31, Mark Waugh 53.27, Langer 51.03, Steve Waugh 48.24, Hodge 47.29, Martyn 43.89.

Still, Bevan's shield record is absolutely miles inferior to Bradman, who averaged a pretty much impossible 110.19 in the competition! Very few players in history have averaged 110 in a single season. To do this over an entire career is beyond sanity.

 

[trundler]

Bradman's double century ratio is as good as most great batsmen's century ratio. I've always found that fascinating.

 

[a massive zebra]

You mean Bradman's conversion rate of centuries to double centuries is as good as most great batsmen's conversion rate of fifties to centuries, right?

 

[trundler]

You mean Bradman's conversion rate of centuries to double centuries is as good as most great batsmen's conversion rate of fifties to centuries, right?

Matches/innings per double tons. 12 in 80 innings is incredible.

 

[a massive zebra]

Matches/innings per double tons. 12 in 80 innings is incredible.

Ah, yes. Bradman holds the world record for most first class double centuries (37), even though many ATG English batsmen such as Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Hammond and Hutton played many times his 338 first class innings.

 

[trundler]

Ah, yes. Bradman holds the world record for most first class double centuries (37), even though many ATG English batsmen such as Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Hammond and Hutton played many times his 338 first class innings.

And that triple ton count is firmly out of everyone's reach as well. I say he's the greatest sportsman of all time.

 

[Mr Miyagi]

And that triple ton count is firmly out of everyone's reach as well. I say he's the greatest sportsman of all time.

Bo Jackson for mine.

 

[smash84]

And that triple ton count is firmly out of everyone's reach as well. I say he's the greatest sportsman of all time.

Imran Khan