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Thread: The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

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    I grew up in NZ in the 70's/80's, and I'd take Smith as my keeper every time. It may be some of the earlier keepers like Wadsworth or Mooney were better keepers, but having never seen them play I can't really choose them. Smith hardly missed a chance and he scored some pretty handy runs. I agree he's not as good a batsman as McCullum but in a lower order with some or all of Reid/Cairns/Hadlee/Vettori likely to be selected, I'd happily give up 10 runs per innings to have him behind the sticks.

    My NZ team :

    Dempster
    Turner
    Sutcliffe
    Crowe
    Donnelly
    Reid
    Hadlee
    Vettori
    Smith (wk)
    Bond
    Cowie

    Second xi :

    Richardson
    Wright
    Jones
    Fleming
    Taylor R
    McCullum (wk)
    Cairns
    Taylor B
    Nash
    Collinge
    Boock

    Fair to say the spin stocks aren't too impressive....

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    Largely agree with those sides, though to show my age Hedley Howarth and Bev Congdon a bit unlucky not to be in the seconds

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    Is Chris Martin close to making NZ's second best XI of all time?


    Zim XI
    1. Grant Flower
    2. Kevin Arnott
    3. Murray Goodwin
    4. Dave Houghton
    5. Andy Flower
    6. Sean Ervine
    7. Tatenda Taibu
    8. Heath Streak
    9. Paul Strang
    10. Henry Olonga
    11. Ray Price

    12. Brendan Taylor

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    I didn't include Jack Cowie. Hardly heard of him. He was obviously a decent bowler though...test and FC stats very good.

    Hadlee, Bond and Cowie sounds ok, with Cairns for support...


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    [QUOTE=NUFAN;2921746]Is Chris Martin close to making NZ's second best XI of all time?[UNQUOTE]

    No.

    Longevity isn't enough to make up for the fact that he's pretty ordinay... And it's not like he brings anything else to the table in terms of his fielding and batting.

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    [QUOTE=Flametree;2921905]
    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    Is Chris Martin close to making NZ's second best XI of all time?[UNQUOTE]

    No.

    Longevity isn't enough to make up for the fact that he's pretty ordinay... And it's not like he brings anything else to the table in terms of his fielding and batting.
    Yeah fair enough. Just wanted to see if you considered him or not.

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    We are still no closer to selecting who we want to be the.England Openers?
    Aus. XI
    Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2


    W.I. XI
    Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4

    S.A. XI
    Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Waite+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2

    Eng. XI
    Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3

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    I'd have all three in there personally. Probably Hutton at three.
    "If that Swann lad is the future of spin bowling in this country, then we're ****ed." - Nasser Hussain, 1997.

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    Despite the fact that he never batted at three, that he and Sutcliffe batting together would slow the run rate to a crawl and that Hobbs basically made everyone he batted with better. To me it has to be Hobbs and Hutton, two out right no. 1 openers with Hammond at three.

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    If an England ATG XI is to be truly English, we have to pick the captain first.

    Brearley at 3.
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    1. Jack Hobbs
    2. Herbert Sutcliffe
    3. Len Hutton
    4. Wally Hammond
    5. Douglas Jardine*
    6. Ian Botham
    7. Les Ames+
    8. Harold Larwood
    9. Fred Trueman
    10. Sydney Barnes
    11. Jim Laker
    Last edited by Eds; 23-09-2012 at 11:32 AM.

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    Jack Hobbs
    Len Hutton
    Wally Hammond
    Dennis Compton
    Ken Barrington
    Ian Botham
    Allan Knott
    Harold Larwood
    Fred Trueman
    Jim Laker
    Syd Barnes

    Peter May
    Herbert Sutcliffe
    John Snow

    Hutton was a good captain who was very forward thinking with his ideas who just didn't stick with them long eneough.
    Also the same way one doesn't weaken the middle order of the West Indies to play Worrell, or play him or Headley in positions that they didn't play by opening with them, shouldn't do the same here either.
    Last edited by kyear2; 23-09-2012 at 11:33 AM.

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    Ahhhh, Syd Barnes. Of course. He'll come in for Tate.

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    No idea why nobody seems to rate Bedser. He'd probably be my second pick of the bowlers after Trueman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyear2 View Post
    Jack Hobbs
    Len Hutton
    Wally Hammond
    Dennis Compton
    Ken Barrington
    Ian Botham
    Allan Knott
    Harold Larwood
    Fred Trueman
    Jim Laker
    Syd Barnes

    Peter May
    Herbert Sutcliffe
    John Snow
    Aside from swapping the order of Compton and Barrington I reckon this is pretty much exactly my XI. I'd probably take Statham or Bedser over Snow - assuming that I've decided not to include Lohmann.

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