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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

Lillian Thomson

Hall of Fame Member
Conventional(ish) 16 man tour party.

Hobbs
Richards (B)
Gavaskar
Bradman
Richards (V)
Tendulkar
Lara
Sobers
Knott
Gilchrist
Imran
Marshall
Trueman
Lillee
Warne
Murali
 

weldone

Hall of Fame Member
An interesting ODI batting top 7 when chasing a big target:

AB de Villiers
Sachin Tendulkar
Virat Kohli
Michael Bevan
Michael Hussey
MS Dhoni
Lance Klusener
 

Shri

Mr. Glass
An interesting ODI batting top 7 when chasing a big target:

AB de Villiers
Sachin Tendulkar
Virat Kohli
Michael Bevan
Michael Hussey
MS Dhoni
Lance Klusener
Why is Abdv opening?

Gilly
Sachin
Viv
Abdv
Dhoni
Bevan
Symonds
 

Red

The normal awards that everyone else has
Conventional(ish) 16 man tour party.

Hobbs
Richards (B)
Gavaskar
Bradman
Richards (V)
Tendulkar
Lara
Sobers
Knott
Gilchrist
Imran
Marshall
Trueman
Lillee
Warne
Murali

Hutton
Hobbs
Gavaskar

Bradman
Tendulkar
V.Richards
Sobers

Gilchrist
AB DeVilliers

Imran
Marshall
Lillee
McGrath
Hadlee

Warne
Murali
 
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watson

Banned
16 Man Touring Party - all conditions from the West Indies to India

01. Sunil Gavaskar
02. Len Hutton
03. Geoff Boycott

04. Don Bradman
05. Viv Richards

06. Sachin Tendulkar
07. Garry Sobers
08. Jacques Kallis

09. Adam Gilchrist
10. Alan Knott

11. Imran Khan
12. Malcolm Marshall
13. Dennis Lillee
14. Wasim Akram

15. Shane Warne
16. Lance Gibbs


Note: Interestingly, Benaud and Gibbs have the lowest averages in 'Asia' of all spin bowlers.

Benaud:
Matches = 12
Wickets = 71
Average = 19

Gibbs:
Matches = 14
Wickets = 54
Average = 24


Incidently, the Top 10 Lowest Averages for Spinners in 'Asia' (>50 wickets) according to Statsguru are;

01. Benaud - 19.32
02. Gibbs - 24.11
03. Ashwin - 24.12
04. SLV Raju - 25.00
05. Swann - 25.97
06. Bedi - 26.12
07. Underwood - 26.65
08. Warne - 26.81
09. Iqbal Qasim - 26,95
10. Herath - 27.16


So I have followed Dickie Birds lead in reckoning Lance Gibbs to be one of best. Dickie Bird's greatest XI (presumably out of those players he has umpired?) is;

01. Sunil Gavaskar
02. Barry Richards
03. Viv Richards
04. Greg Chappell
05. Graeme Pollock
06. Garry Sobers
07. Alan Knott +
08. Imran Khan *
09. Shane Warne
10. Dennis Lillee
11. Lance Gibbs

Dickie Bird names his greatest all-time Test XI: in pictures - Telegraph

Dickie Bird drops Bradman and says Lillee best bowler ever | The Roar
 
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kyear2

Cricketer Of The Year
16 man squad.

Jack Hobbs
Len Hutton
Sunil Gavaskar

Don Bradman
Viv Richards
Sachin Tendulkar
Brian Lara / Greg Chappell
Garry Sobers

Adam Gilchrist
Allan Knott

Malcolm Marshall
Glenn McGrath
Dale Steyn
Wasim Akram / Richard Hadlee

Shane Warne
Muttiah Muralitharan
 

Coronis

Cricketer Of The Year
16 Man Touring Party - all conditions from the West Indies to India

01. Sunil Gavaskar
02. Len Hutton
03. Geoff Boycott

04. Don Bradman
05. Viv Richards

06. Sachin Tendulkar
07. Garry Sobers
08. Jacques Kallis

09. Adam Gilchrist
10. Alan Knott

11. Imran Khan
12. Malcolm Marshall
13. Dennis Lillee
14. Wasim Akram

15. Shane Warne
16. Lance Gibbs


Note: Interestingly, Benaud and Gibbs have the lowest averages in 'Asia' of all spin bowlers.

Benaud:
Matches = 12
Wickets = 71
Average = 19

Gibbs:
Matches = 14
Wickets = 54
Average = 24


Incidently, the Top 10 Lowest Averages for Spinners in 'Asia' (>50 wickets) according to Statsguru are;

01. Benaud - 19.32
02. Gibbs - 24.11
03. Ashwin - 24.12
04. SLV Raju - 25.00
05. Swann - 25.97
06. Bedi - 26.12
07. Underwood - 26.65
08. Warne - 26.81
09. Iqbal Qasim - 26,95
10. Herath - 27.16


So I have followed Dickie Birds lead in reckoning Lance Gibbs to be one of best. Dickie Bird's greatest XI (presumably out of those players he has umpired?) is;

01. Sunil Gavaskar
02. Barry Richards
03. Viv Richards
04. Greg Chappell
05. Graeme Pollock
06. Garry Sobers
07. Alan Knott +
08. Imran Khan *
09. Shane Warne
10. Dennis Lillee
11. Lance Gibbs

Dickie Bird names his greatest all-time Test XI: in pictures - Telegraph

Dickie Bird drops Bradman and says Lillee best bowler ever | The Roar
Have you forgotten a certain Sri Lankan spinner.......
 

bagapath

International Captain
Hobbs
Hutton
Gavaskar

Bradman
Richards
Lara
Sobers

Miller
Imran

Gilchrist
AB de Villiers

Warne
O'Reilly

Lillee
Marshall
Hadlee

I can select world beating XIs from this combo year round all over the world.
 

Coronis

Cricketer Of The Year
Hobbs
Sutcliffe
Hutton
Bradman
Tendulkar
Hammond
Sobers
Kallis
Gilchrist
Knott
Hadlee
Marshall
Warne
McGrath
Wasim
Muralitharan

Only including retired players, otherwise Sanga and Steyn might have a shot.
 
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DLF Maximum Test Cricket XI

1 Sehwag
2 Gayle
3 Warner
4 McMillan
5 Richards/McCullum
6 Cairns
7 Gilchrist
8 Flintoff
9 Afridi
10 Sammy
11 Southee

12 Symonds
 
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