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    Current faves XI

    Len Hutton
    Vic Trumper
    Rohan Kanhai
    Neil Harvey
    Bill Ponsford
    Keith Miller
    Godfrey Evans
    Hugh Trumble
    Richard Hadlee
    CTB Turner
    Dennis Lillee
    I'll never fear you, buddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    Bill Ponsford
    Love that team.

    Here's a team of players I love, none from my ATG team.

    Warner
    Barnes
    Sangakkara
    Ponsford
    McCabe
    Chanderpaul
    Ames+
    Hadlee
    Akram
    Lillee
    Grimmett

    No idea who would captain tbh. Hadlee maybe?
    ATG World XI
    1. J.B Hobbs 2. H. Sutcliffe 3. D.G Bradman 4. W.R Hammond 5. G.S Sobers 6. M.J Procter 7. A.C Gilchrist 8. M.D Marshall 9. S.K Warne 10. M. Muralitharan 11. G.D McGrath

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    Current faves XI

    Len Hutton
    Vic Trumper
    Rohan Kanhai
    Neil Harvey
    Bill Ponsford
    Keith Miller
    Godfrey Evans
    Hugh Trumble
    Richard Hadlee
    CTB Turner
    Dennis Lillee
    I've watched a fair amount of batting on Youtube, but Kanhai's square-drive off Jeff Thomson in the 1975 World Cup Final remains my favourite shot to this day. It has the contempt of Viv Richards, but the grace of Gower;

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BjEWEB62bno
    Len Hutton - Jack Hobbs - Ted Dexter - David Gower - Walter Hammond - Frank Woolley - Ian Botham - Alan Knott - Hedley Verity - John Snow - Fred Trueman

    Victor Trumper - Bill Lawry - Don Bradman - Greg Chappell - Allan Border - Keith Miller - Adam Gilchrist - Alan Davidson - Shane Warne - Dennis Lillee - Glenn McGrath

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    He just leans on it and smoooookes it. Beautiful.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ohnoitsyou View Post
    Because ATG XIs are too boring here is an alternate XI that should compete with the best of them:

    Barry Richards
    Sunil Gavaskar
    Donald Bradman
    Wally Hammond
    Greg Chappell
    Gary Sobers
    Les Ames
    Ray Lindwall
    Wasim Akram
    Joel Garner
    Bill O'Reilly.
    Love your theory on the team. Not particularly the players I'd choose. But that's the point I guess.
    Current Favourite XI 1. Cook 2. Warner 3.Sangakarra 4. Clarke* 5. Chanderpaul 6. De Kock+ 7. Neesham 8. Johnson 9. Philander 10. Herath 11. Steyn

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    Barry
    Viv

    Lara
    Pollock
    Sobers

    Miller
    Gilly

    Warne (c)
    Lillee
    O'Reilly / Murali
    Ambrose
    Last edited by harsh.ag; 09-03-2014 at 01:31 PM.
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    Cook
    Warner
    Sangakkara
    Amla
    Clarke*
    de Villiers+
    Chanderpaul
    Philander
    Johnson
    Steyn
    Ajmal

    A team for this decade..
    Last edited by Coronis; 09-03-2014 at 08:24 PM.

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    Honestly think both DeV and Chanders would be happy to bat the other way around

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    Quote Originally Posted by schearzie View Post
    Honestly think both DeV and Chanders would be happy to bat the other way around
    Yeah wasn't sure about them.

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    http://www.cricket.com.au/video/Best...ver-played-T20



    Think we've had this discussion but I like it (players from history who would've been good at 20/20 but never played it)...

    - Garry Sobers
    - Don Bradman
    - Viv Richards
    - Vic Trumper
    - Clive Lloyd
    - Keith Miller
    - Kapil Dev
    - Les Ames
    - Joel Garner
    - Bill O'Reilly
    - Bishen Bedi

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    On that theme, I was thinking the other day. Gayle is probably one of the best T20 openers, and certainly the best fr the W.I. If one is picking a world AT XI, not a Test XI, but an ATG world/ W.I XI, then the same way that we factor in W.G Grace's and Barry Richards FC records, or Sachin and Viv's odi records should one factor in Gayle's odi and T20 records to possible slip him in an XI over say Conrad Hunte?

    Just thinking out loud.
    Aus. XI
    Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2


    W.I. XI
    Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4

    S.A. XI
    Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Cameron+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2

    Eng. XI
    Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3

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    A T20 team all born during the 1930s. I think that they would thrash any team today even without experience;

    01. Conrad Hunte
    02. Trevor Goddard
    03. Rohan Kanhai
    04. Garry Sobers
    05. Ted Dexter
    06. Colin Bland
    07. Farokh Engineer
    08. Richie Benaud
    09. Wes Hall
    10. Fred Trueman
    11. Brian Statham
    Last edited by watson; 28-03-2014 at 08:35 PM.

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    1. Barry Richards
    2. Charles Macartney (7)
    3. Viv Richards
    4. Keith Miller* (3)
    5. Mike Procter (2)
    6. Neil Harvey
    7. Learie Constantine (6)
    8. Godfrey Evans+
    9. Bill O'Reilly (4)
    10. Sydney Barnes (1)
    11. Clarrie Grimmett (5)

    12th Colin Bland

    - Barnes/O'Reilly/Grimmett to confuse everyone with variations and being unique.
    - Procter and Miller to bowl quick, accurately and with movement, as well as hit the ball a bloody long way.
    - Richards/Macartney/Richards is a powerful top 3, with Macartney being very unorthodox.
    - Harvey plays the finisher role, and every T20 teams needs a slightly egocentric Victorian.
    - Learie Constantine to play the Darren Sammy role, only better.
    - Godfrey Evans trumps Ames or Walcott to the 'keeper role, because a more athletic specialist would be more valuable than a batsman-keeper in this line-up #SpikeyThoughts
    - Macartney, Viv, Harvey, Bland all remarkably good in the field. Procter no mug either, and Constantine would probably be an outfield specialist. Specialist bowlers are a little weak in that department though, I guess.

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    Yeah, very nice team Dan. Like the Evans pick as he was a good attacking batsman as well as being dynamite behind the stumps. A lesser mortal simply wouldn't do with the likes of O'Reilly, Barnes, and Grimmett bowling. Jock Cameron could hit the ball a long way, and was a great stumper, so he might be in with a shout as well.
    Last edited by watson; 28-03-2014 at 08:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watson View Post
    A T20 team all born during the 1930s. I think that they would thrash any team today even without experience;

    01. Conrad Hunte
    02. Trevor Goddard
    03. Rohan Kanhai
    04. Garry Sobers
    05. Ted Dexter
    06. Colin Bland
    07. Farokh Engineer
    08. Richie Benaud
    09. Wes Hall
    10. Fred Trueman
    11. Brian Statham
    Its hard to rate these kind of things,since ultimately as they say, " the proof is in the pudding". Inherently, we just don't know if players of an era who have not played a format, how they'd do in it. Would Bradman have gone the way of Tendulkar/Gayle in T20s or would he have gone the way of Michael Clarke/Rahul Dravid ( ie, good but not extraordinary) ?
    That being said, the one player who I'd pick in a heartbeat in these sort of speculative debates, for an ODI and 20/20 side, is Bapu Nadkarni.

    Saw him once, bowling at Brabourne in the nets to who was a very young Praveen Amre ( Amre had only one weakness: genuine pace. Rest all categories, even in medium fast, he had ATG skills). Amre could not help but mis-hit the ball on attacking strokes, which for such a clean & crisp hitter of the ball, was revealing. What was more revealing, is Amre was 18, Nadkarni was in his mid 50s.

    Not to mention, his economy rate in tests & FC is jaw-dropping.



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