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    Warne wins on batting and fielding for me, and I think others use that justification too.

    Though strangely no one extends it to the fast bowlers (well I do, but my opinion doesn't count).
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    Well yeah Tendy is probably better than Bradman, but Bradman was 70 years ago, if he grew up in the modern era he'd still easily be the best. Though he wasn't, can understand the argument for Tendy even though I don't agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    I don't know if I'd go this far but he was definitely as good as any other quick bowler.

    I think his all round skills take away from the legacy as a quick bowler. If he'd only been a pace bowler people would probably regard him better as a bowler.
    Yeah, it's strange how thats happened.
    A guy who is equivalent to 60 avg batsman and one who avgs close to 40 with the bat himself is overlooked in favour of other bowlers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Warne wins on batting and fielding for me, and I think others use that justification too.

    Though strangely no one extends it to the fast bowlers (well I do, but my opinion doesn't count).
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    Quote Originally Posted by centurymaker View Post
    Yeah, it's strange how thats happened.
    A guy who is equivalent to 60 avg batsman and one who avgs close to 40 with the bat himself is overlooked in favour of other bowlers.
    Statistically probably closer to 50-55 at most imo equivalent. But I thought it was just about building a bowling unit? I'd rather have Imran McGrath (as I said earlier) if it was team wise. But just taking the 20 wickets it's not as clear cut I don't think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schearzie View Post
    Statistically probably closer to 50-55 at most imo equivalent. But I thought it was just about building a bowling unit? I'd rather have Imran McGrath (as I said earlier) if it was team wise. But just taking the 20 wickets it's not as clear cut I don't think.
    25 = 50
    21 = 60
    17.5 = 70
    14.5 = 80
    12 = 90
    10 = 100
    imo

    He played on a bit too long (his career spanned around 20 yrs), so his net figure is by no means a true reflection of his abilities anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smalishah84 View Post
    I actually tend to think that people end up under rating Imran's bowling.
    I agree, as much as I don't rate him as a true all rounder, I think his batting exploits cause his bowling to be slightly overlooked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by centurymaker View Post
    25 = 50
    21 = 60
    17.5 = 70
    14.5 = 80
    12 = 90
    10 = 100
    imo

    He played on a bit too long (his career spanned around 20 yrs), so his net figure is by no means a true reflection of his abilities anyway.
    Stat's are only ever indicators. Imran was a hell of a bowler, and very decent with the bat for his sides needs. But I just prefer Lillee, possibly because of only really seeing youtube and other videos when he was bowling well. But it's pretty much the same for me with Imran too, didn't really see him. Statistically McGrath and Imran get the nod, but I prefer Lillee and Wasim to join Marshall. Again though, it's a tough call.

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    I'd like to see


    McGrath
    Hadlee
    Garner
    Warne
    plus Sobers

    Bowl as a combo.

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    Random-want-to-see-play-right-now XI:

    Barry
    Viv
    Bradman
    Tendulkar
    Kanhai
    Sobers *
    Gilly +
    Wasim
    Lindwall
    Roberts
    O' Reilly
    Last edited by harsh.ag; 20-11-2013 at 12:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harsh.skm View Post
    Random-want-to-see-play-right-now XI:

    Barry
    Viv
    Bradman
    Tendulkar
    Kanhai
    Sobers *
    Gilly +
    Wasim
    Lindwall
    Roberts
    O' Reilly
    That's a great side, these guys want a game against them. I think it'd be good fun game
    1. John Hobbs
    2.Wally Hammond
    3.George Headley
    4. Graeme Pollock
    5. Allan Border
    6. Clive Lloyd*
    7. Keith Miller
    8.Peter Pollock
    9.Bert Oldfield +
    10.Fred Trueman
    11. James Laker

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    Ahan! Laker is going to get his ass kicked Three lefties and no Lara! Beautiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harsh.skm View Post
    Ahan! Laker is going to get his ass kicked Three lefties and no Lara! Beautiful.
    Not many bowlers could come in to bowl at the Richards' first up. That was my main concern!

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    Steyn and Waqar bowling in tandem would be the greatest sight in cricket.
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    Yeah, look, it gives me a pain deep inside my uterus to admit it, but it's Ajmal until such time as we get a working throwing law again.
    Never in a million years would I have thought Brumby to admit this!!!!!!

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    Excitement XI
    1. Sanath Jayasuriya
    2.Virendar Sehvag
    3.Viv Richards
    4.Brian Lara
    5.Kevin Pieterson
    6.Adam Gilchrist
    7.Shahid Afridi
    8.Jeff Thomson
    9.Michael Holding
    10.Shoaib Akhtar
    11.Allan Donald

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    how can you have an excitement Xi and not have wasim akram in it?
    And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW

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