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Thread: The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

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    AT XI Players less than 50 tests

    Barry Richards^
    Bruce Mitchell^
    George Headley*
    Graeme Pollock
    Everton Weekes^
    Clyde Walcott
    Les Ames +
    Mike Procter
    Alan Davidson
    Bill O'Reilly
    Colin Croft

    Hard on Larwood and Verity and would give any team a run for it's money.
    Aus. XI
    Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2


    W.I. XI
    Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4

    S.A. XI
    Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Waite+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2

    Eng. XI
    Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyear2 View Post
    Hard on Larwood
    Cool nickname
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    to follow on from the discussion in Smali's thread and not to derail that one, there are a couple of reasons why Wasim isn't as highly rated on CW, but we have been through that before. I agree with Monk to a certain extent that I don't have that much of a problem with Akran making the Cricinfo's team. That is if he was selected because of his versatility and the ability to reverse swing the old ball and not because he was the third best bowler of All Time.

    So basically which is the better attack ours or Cricinfo's

    CW
    Marshall, McGrath, Imran, Warne

    or

    Cricinfo
    Marshall, Lillee, Akram, Warne

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    It's splitting hairs because I'd be more than happy with either attack really.

    I'm a massive fan of Lillee, and my preferred attack would be Lillee, McGrath, Wasim and Warne.

    But really, any of the top 15 pacemen aren't worth arguing over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyear2 View Post
    AT XI Players less than 50 tests

    Barry Richards^
    Bruce Mitchell^
    George Headley*
    Graeme Pollock
    Everton Weekes^
    Clyde Walcott
    Les Ames +
    Mike Procter
    Alan Davidson
    Bill O'Reilly
    Colin Croft

    Hard on Larwood and Verity and would give any team a run for it's money.
    Sid Barnes close as an opening bat maybe for Mitchell
    Current Favourite XI 1. Cook 2. Gayle 3. Sangakarra 4. Clarke* 5. Chanderpaul 6. Al Hasan 7. De Kock+ 8.Johnson 9.Harris 10. Herath 11. Steyn

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    Sid Barnes was the first name in my head too.
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    All Teams ODI ATXI

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    Australia

    Adam Gilchrist (w)
    Matthew Hayden

    Ricky Ponting
    Dean Jones
    Michael Bevan
    Michael Hussey
    Shane Watson

    Brett Lee
    Shane Warne (c)
    Nathan Bracken/Dennis Lillee
    Glenn McGrath

    Notes: I don't know how to choose from Bracken and Lillee. Symonds could be chosen over Watson, but I wanted a more stable fifth bowler. Have to have Warne as the skipper.

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    South Africa

    Gary Kirsten (c)
    Hashim Amla

    Jacques Kallis
    AB De Villiers (w)
    Herschelle Gibbs
    Hansie Cronje

    Lance Klusener
    Shaun Pollock

    Dale Steyn
    Morne Morkel
    Allan Donald

    Notes: Cracking pace battery. There were many hard choices here. Cullinan, McMillan, Adams as the spinning option, Dippenaar, Smith, Rhodes. But I like this. Cronje's place is the most shaky, of course. So is Steyn's (which seems ridiculous on its face)! Kirsten has proved himself a great strategist.

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    India

    Sachin Tendulkar
    Sourav Ganguly

    Virat Kohli
    Virender Sehwag
    Yuvraj Singh
    Suresh Raina
    M S Dhoni (w) (c)

    Kapil Dev
    Ajit Agarkar
    Javagal Srinath
    Anil Kumble

    Notes: Zaheer is unlucky to miss out. I won't mind him replacing either Agarkar or Srinath. Fifth bowler to be a mix of Yuvi, Raina, Sehwag, Tendulkar and Sourav (all of them have bowled, even Kohli for that matter!!)

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    Pakistan

    Saeed Anwar
    Younis Khan

    Inzamam ul-Haq
    Javed Miandad
    Mohammad Yousuf

    Imran Khan (c)
    Abdul Razzaq
    Rashid Latif (w)

    Wasim Akram
    Saqlain Mushtaq
    Waqar Younis

    Notes: Afridi misses out, Razzaq being the more stable all-round choice. I went for Younis as the opener because I can't think of a single player better than him for that, even Sohail.

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    West Indies

    Gordon Greenidge
    Chris Gayle

    Viv Richards
    Brian Lara
    Clive Lloyd (c)
    Garfield Sobers/Rohan Kanhai

    Jeffrey Dujon (w)

    Malcolm Marshall
    Joel Garner
    Michael Holding
    Curtly Ambrose

    Notes: I am cheating here, but who cares when I can technically select Sobers. Plus I can't think of anybody else, and Gayle's not a good enough fifth bowling option. If pressed, then I would take Kanhai and risk Gayle.

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    New Zealand

    Stephen Fleming (c)
    Nathan Astle

    Martin Crowe
    Ross Taylor
    Roger Twose
    Brendon McCullum (w)
    Chris Cairns

    Richard Hadlee
    Daniel Vettori
    Kyle Mills
    Shane Bond

    Notes: Styris, who has been magnificent, has to miss out, though I would really like him there.

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    Sri Lanka

    Sanath Jayasuriya
    Tilakrathne Dilshan

    Kumar Sangakkara
    Mahela Jayawardene
    Aravinda de Silva
    Arjuna Ranaunga (c)
    Prasanna Jayawardene (w)

    Chaminda Vaas
    Upul Chandana
    Lasith Malinga
    Muttiah Muralitharan

    Notes: Pretty easy. Maybe Sanga can be keeper and somebody like Angelo Matthews could be put there.

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    England

    Marcus Trescothick
    Alec Stewart (w) (c)

    Jonathan Trott
    Kevin Pietersen
    Allan Lamb
    Eoin Morgan
    Andrew Flintoff

    Stuart Broad
    Graeme Swann
    Darren Gough
    Derek Underwood

    Notes: This was tough. First, leaving out Nick Knight for the purpose of accommodating Allan Lamb. Then taking in two spinners, instead of say, Botham or Collingwood. There are many options.
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    Has Trott captained at any level?

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    [QUOTE=harsh.skm;3139544]All Teams ODI ATXI

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    India

    Sachin Tendulkar
    Sourav Ganguly

    Virat Kohli
    Virender Sehwag
    Yuvraj Singh
    Suresh Raina
    M S Dhoni (w) (c)

    Kapil Dev
    Ajit Agarkar
    Javagal Srinath
    Anil Kumble

    Notes: Zaheer is unlucky to miss out. I won't mind him replacing either Agarkar or Srinath. Fifth bowler to be a mix of Yuvi, Raina, Sehwag, Tendulkar and Sourav (all of them have bowled, even Kohli for that matter!!)

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    I would make 3 changes there, Rahul Dravid in place of Sehwag, Mohm. Azharuddin in place of Suresh Raina and Zaheer Khan in place of Ajit Agarkar....and the order would also change a bit...

    Sachin Tendulkar
    Sourav Ganguly
    Virat Kohli
    Mohm. Azharuddin
    Rahul Dravid
    Yuvraj Singh
    Kapil Dev
    M. S. Dhoni
    Javagal Srinath
    Zaheer Khan
    Anil Kumble

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    Has Trott captained at any level?
    Nope. Sorry, yeah I think Stewart should be captain of that side. Will make the change.

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    @harsh Agarkar instead I'd Zaheer? You've got to be kidding me. Zaheer was the prime reason we won the world cup. More than Yuvraj, more than Tendulkar, Zaheer produced the key wickets virtually every time we needed one. Brilliant with the new ball, best in the world at reversing the old ball, and practically without exception he got a breakthrough with his 2nd spell with the old ball. And you're ignoring this man for some skinny little medium pacer who got loads of wickets in meaningless ODIs? For shame

    And I'm not even mentioning how expensive Agarkar always was regardless of whether he took wickets or not
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    @harsh Agarkar instead of Zaheer? You've got to be kidding me. Zaheer was the prime reason we won the world cup. More than Yuvraj, more than Tendulkar, Zaheer produced the key wickets virtually every time we needed one. Brilliant with the new ball, best in the world at reversing the old ball, and practically without exception he got a breakthrough with his 2nd spell with the old ball. And you're ignoring this man for some skinny little medium pacer who got loads of wickets in meaningless ODIs? For shame

    And I'm not even mentioning how expensive Agarkar always was regardless of whether he took wickets or not

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    Such a massive travesty deserves a double post

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    Quote Originally Posted by OverratedSanity View Post
    @harsh Agarkar instead of Zaheer? You've got to be kidding me. Zaheer was the prime reason we won the world cup. More than Yuvraj, more than Tendulkar, Zaheer produced the key wickets virtually every time we needed one. Brilliant with the new ball, best in the world at reversing the old ball, and practically without exception he got a breakthrough with his 2nd spell with the old ball. And you're ignoring this man for some skinny little medium pacer who got loads of wickets in meaningless ODIs? For shame

    And I'm not even mentioning how expensive Agarkar always was regardless of whether he took wickets or not
    Read my notes on the Indian Team - I will reproduce it here
    Notes: Zaheer is unlucky to miss out. I won't mind him replacing either Agarkar or Srinath. Fifth bowler to be a mix of Yuvi, Raina, Sehwag, Tendulkar and Sourav (all of them have bowled, even Kohli for that matter!!)
    I don't feel so strongly about it. Zaheer's peak, though fantastic, was quite short, and he hasn't been nearly the same either side of it. Srinath and Agarkar were, for a long time, good in attacks which didn't provide them much support. And Agarkar's wicket taking capacity is quite invaluable, I think.

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    Fair enough. I do admit I rate Zaheer above Agarkar mainly just for that awesome world cup show, but Agarkar was just a bit too expensive for my liking. Never knew if he would get 4-40 or 1-80. He was capable of losing us the match just as he was of winning one



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