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Thread: The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

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    I love this...

    Let me try again...

    1. Up to December 1930: Sid Barnes
    2. January 1931 - February 1955: Tiger O'Reilly
    3. February 1955 - December 1965: Fred Trueman
    4. January 1966 - February 1977: Sunil Gavaskar
    5. February 1977 - October 1984: Greg Chappell
    6. November 1984 - July 1992: Imran Khan
    7. July 1992 - December 1997: Curtley Ambrose
    8. December 1997 - February 2002: Brian Lara
    9. February 2002 - March 2006: Matthew Hayden
    10. March 2006 - July 2011: Adam Gilchrist
    11. July 2011 on: AB De Villiers

    Gavaskar
    Hayden
    Lara
    G.Chappell
    De Villiers
    Imran
    Gilchrist +
    Trueman
    Ambrose
    Barnes
    O'Reilly
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    Nah that's a cheat for Gilchrist. Averaged 30 after 2005 and retired in 2008. Be better off making De Vil keep seeing as you're picking him for the last two years anyway.
    Every 5 years we have an election and have to decide who are the least obnoxious out of all the men. Then one gets in and they age really quickly. Which is always fun to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    Seems a bit weird to pick four players from the last 25 years when you're trying to get a team from across time. How did you pick your dates?
    Kind of extrapolated it from:

    a) The retirement/decline of a certain set of players or rise of a certain set of players; and
    b) The number of tests played increasing with time, so shorter eras later on
    Last edited by harsh.ag; 02-09-2013 at 11:55 PM.
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    Think everyone should give that idea a whirl..


    I love this...

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    1. Up to December 1930: Jack Hobbs
    2. January 1931 - February 1955: Don Bradman
    3. February 1955 - December 1965: Gary Sobers
    4. January 1966 - February 1977: Dennis Lillee
    5. February 1977 - October 1984: Joel Garner
    6. November 1984 - July 1992 : Wasim Akram
    7. July 1992 - December 1997: Muttiah Muralitharan
    8. December 1997 - February 2002: Brian Lara
    9. February 2002 - March 2006: Sachin Tendulkar
    10. March 2006 - July 2011: Graeme Smith
    11. July 2011 on: AB De Villiers



    Team is:


    Jack Hobbs
    Graeme Smith
    Don Bradman (c)
    Brian Lara
    Sachin Tendulkar
    Gary Sobers
    AB De Villiers (wk)
    Wasim Akram
    Dennis Lillee
    Joel Garner
    Muttiah Muralitharan

    Gavaskar
    Hayden
    Lara
    G.Chappell
    De Villiers
    Imran
    Gilchrist +
    Trueman
    Ambrose
    Barnes
    O'Reilly
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    In the end, I think it's so utterly, incomprehensibly boring. There is so much context behind each innings of cricket that dissecting statistics into these small samples is just worthless. No-one has ever been faced with the same situation in which they come out to bat as someone else. Ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by honestbharani View Post
    Think everyone should give that idea a whirl..


    I love this...

    Let me try again...

    1. Up to December 1930: Jack Hobbs
    2. January 1931 - February 1955: Don Bradman
    3. February 1955 - December 1965: Gary Sobers
    4. January 1966 - February 1977: Dennis Lillee
    5. February 1977 - October 1984: Joel Garner
    6. November 1984 - July 1992 : Wasim Akram
    7. July 1992 - December 1997: Muttiah Muralitharan
    8. December 1997 - February 2002: Brian Lara
    9. February 2002 - March 2006: Sachin Tendulkar
    10. March 2006 - July 2011: Graeme Smith
    11. July 2011 on: AB De Villiers



    Team is:


    Jack Hobbs
    Graeme Smith
    Don Bradman (c)
    Brian Lara
    Sachin Tendulkar
    Gary Sobers
    AB De Villiers (wk)
    Wasim Akram
    Dennis Lillee
    Joel Garner
    Muttiah Muralitharan
    I think that you will find Hadlee Imran and Marshall all doing better than Wasim in the period 1984-1992
    And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW

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    Quote Originally Posted by smalishah84 View Post
    I think that you will find Hadlee Imran and Marshall all doing better than Wasim in the period 1984-1992
    I know your Imran love cannot take this, but I actually wanted some variety in the bowling line up.. What is the fun in just picking the best XI.. It is more fun when you start factoring in things like how varied the bowling attack could be without compromising too much on quality and things like that..

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    haha.......fair enough

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    I know this isn't the right thread for it but I need some help.

    I need a list of six to seven stadiums which would assist swing bowling but won't generate a lot of bounce.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Kopite View Post
    I know this isn't the right thread for it but I need some help.

    I need a list of six to seven stadiums which would assist swing bowling but won't generate a lot of bounce.

    Thanks.
    Any help?

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    A lot of the English stadiums would fall into this category since swing is primarily due to atmospheric conditions.

    For more info why don't you make a separate thread for this?

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    1. Up to December 1930: Jack Hobbs
    2. January 1931 - February 1955: Don Bradman
    3. February 1955 - December 1965: Alan Davidson
    4. January 1966 - February 1977: Dennis Lillee
    5. February 1977 - October 1984: Greg Chappell
    6. November 1984 - July 1992: Malcolm Marshall
    7. July 1992 - December 1997: Shane Warne
    8. December 1997 - February 2002: Chris Cairns
    9. February 2002 - March 2006: Adam Gilchrist (wk)
    10. March 2006 - July 2011: Kevin Pietersen
    11. July 2011 on: Haslim Amla



    Hobbs
    Amla
    Don Bradman
    Chappell
    Pietersen
    Gilchrist (wk)
    Cairns
    Davidson
    Marshall
    Warne
    Lillee
    Greatest Ever Test XI: JB Hobbs, L Hutton, DG Bradman (c), IVA Richards, BC Lara, GS Sobers, AC Gilchrist (wk), Imran Khan, RJ Hadlee, MD Marshall, SK Warne 12th man: M Muralitharan


    Favorite XI: WG Grace, VT Trumper, IVA Richards, DCS Compton, FMM Worrell (c), AC Gilchrist (wk), CL Cairns, SK Warne, FS Trueman, SE Bond, T Richardson 12th man: H Larwood

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    1. Up to December 1930: Jack Hobbs
    2. January 1931 - February 1955: Don Bradman
    3. February 1955 - December 1965: Garry Sobers
    4. January 1966 - February 1977: Greg Chappell
    5. February 1977 - October 1984: Richard Hadlee
    6. November 1984 - July 1992: Malcolm Marshall
    7. July 1992 - December 1997: Shane Warne
    8. December 1997 - February 2002: Glenn McGrath
    9. February 2002 - March 2006: Adam Gilchrist
    10. March 2006 - July 2011: Kumar Sangakkara
    11. July 2011 on: Alastair Cook

    Hobbs
    Cook
    Bradman*
    Chappell
    Sangakkara
    Sobers
    Gilchrist+
    Hadlee
    Marshall
    Warne
    McGrath

    My effort.
    ATG World XI
    1. J.B Hobbs 2. H. Sutcliffe 3. D.G Bradman 4. W.R Hammond 5. G.S Sobers 6. M.J Procter 7. A.C Gilchrist 8. M.D Marshall 9. S.K Warne 10. M. Muralitharan 11. G.D McGrath

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    Quote Originally Posted by Days of Grace View Post
    1. Up to December 1930: Jack Hobbs
    2. January 1931 - February 1955: Don Bradman
    3. February 1955 - December 1965: Alan Davidson
    4. January 1966 - February 1977: Dennis Lillee
    5. February 1977 - October 1984: Greg Chappell
    6. November 1984 - July 1992: Malcolm Marshall
    7. July 1992 - December 1997: Shane Warne
    8. December 1997 - February 2002: Chris Cairns
    9. February 2002 - March 2006: Adam Gilchrist (wk)
    10. March 2006 - July 2011: Kevin Pietersen
    11. July 2011 on: Haslim Amla



    Hobbs
    Amla
    Don Bradman
    Chappell
    Pietersen
    Gilchrist (wk)
    Cairns
    Davidson
    Marshall
    Warne
    Lillee

    Like the Batting strength of the Tail, a variation would be to Miller (Haddle / Imran) instead of Cairns. Miller would fit quite nicely as 46 to 55

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    1. Up to December 1930: Victor Trumper
    2. January 1931 - February 1955: George Headley
    3. February 1955 - December 1965: Wally Grout
    4. January 1966 - February 1977: Sunil Gavaskar
    5. February 1977 - October 1984: Allan Border
    6. November 1984 - July 1992: Imran Khan
    7. July 1992 - December 1997: Shane Warne
    8. December 1997 - February 2002: Allan Donald
    9. February 2002 - March 2006: Brian Lara
    10.March 2006 - July 2011: Jacques Kallis
    11. July 2011 on: Vernon Philander

    1 Trumper
    2 Gavaskar
    3 Headley
    4 Lara
    5 Kallis(5)
    6 Border*
    7 Khan(3)
    8 Warne(4)
    9 Philander (2)
    10 Grout+
    11 Donald (1)
    Current Favourite XI 1. Cook 2. Gayle 3. Sangakarra 4. Clarke* 5. Chanderpaul 6. Al Hasan 7. De Kock+ 8.Johnson 9.Harris 10. Herath 11. Steyn

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    Australia ATG XI
    Arthur Morris {81}
    Robert Simpson(5)^ {44} / Victor Trumper {62}
    Sir Donald Bradman* {1}
    Greg Chappell^ {11}
    Ricky Ponting {10} / Keith Miller {/}
    Allan Border {19}
    Adam Gilchrist+ {28}
    Alan Davidson(3)
    Shane Warne(4)^
    Denis Lillee(1)
    Glenn McGrath(2)

    West Indies ATG XI
    Gordon Greenidge {46}
    Sir Conrad Hunte {/}
    George Headley* {13*}
    Sir I.V.A. Richards^ {6}
    Brian Lara^ {4}
    Sir Garfield Sobers(5)^ {2}
    Sir Clyde Walcott+ {22}
    Malcolm Marshall(1)
    Michael Holding(3)
    Curtly Ambrose(2)
    Joel Garner(4)

    South Africa ATG XI
    Barry Richards^ {/*}
    Graeme Smith*^ {49}
    Hashim Amla {30} / Aubrey Faulkner {56}
    Graeme Pollock {35*}
    Jacques Kallis(5)^ {12}
    Dudley Nourse {27}
    Michael Procter(3)
    John Waite+
    Hugh Tayfield(4)
    Dale Steyn(2)
    Alan Donald (1)

    England ATG XI
    Sir Jack Hobbs {2}
    Sir Leonard Hutton {7}
    Walter Hammond^ {5}
    Denis Compton {33}
    Ken Barrington {16}
    Sir Ian Botham(5)^ {/}
    Allan Knott+
    Harold Larwood(2)
    Jim Laker(4)
    Fred Trueman(1)
    Sydney Barnes(3)

    Pakistan ATG XI
    Saeed Anwar {47}
    Hanif Mohammad {70}
    Younis Khan^ {31}
    Javed Miandad^ {23}
    Inzamam Ul-Haq^ {21}
    Mushtaq Mohammad(5) {/}
    Imran Khan(2)*
    Rashid Latif+
    Wasim Akram(3)
    Saqlain Mushtaq(4)
    Waqar Youis(1)

    Added with DoG batting ratings and alternates showing the CW selected players and their batting ratings.
    Aus. XI
    Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2


    W.I. XI
    Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4

    S.A. XI
    Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Waite+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2

    Eng. XI
    Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3



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