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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    South Africa since readmission

    G Smith
    G Kirsten
    H Amla
    J Kallis
    D Cullinan
    A de Villiers
    M Boucher
    S Pollock
    V Philander
    D Steyn
    A Donald

    Would compete respectably against ATG XIs from other nations.
    South Africa before readmission:

    Bruce Mitchell
    Barry Richards
    Herbie Taylor
    Graeme Pollock
    Dudley Nourse
    Aubrey Faulkner
    Clive Rice
    Mike Procter
    John Waite+
    Vintcent van der Bijl
    Hugh Tayfield

    Feel as though I've forgotten someone...
    ATG World XI
    1. J.B Hobbs 2. H. Sutcliffe 3. D.G Bradman 4. W.R Hammond 5. G.S Sobers 6. M.J Procter 7. A.C Gilchrist 8. M.D Marshall 9. S.K Warne 10. M. Muralitharan 11. G.D McGrath

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    Adcock maybe?
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    Jeets doesn't really deserve to be bowling.
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    Well yeah Tendy is probably better than Bradman, but Bradman was 70 years ago, if he grew up in the modern era he'd still easily be the best. Though he wasn't, can understand the argument for Tendy even though I don't agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Adcock maybe?
    no...subtractcock
    And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    South Africa since readmission

    G Smith
    G Kirsten
    H Amla
    J Kallis
    D Cullinan
    A de Villiers
    M Boucher
    S Pollock
    V Philander
    D Steyn
    A Donald

    Would compete respectably against ATG XIs from other nations.
    Five seamers is such a cheat
    Every 5 years we have an election and have to decide who are the least obnoxious out of all the men. Then one gets in and they age really quickly. Which is always fun to watch.


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    Graeme Smith is their best spinner.

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    DoG's exercise has made me take another look at the Pakitani batting line up, and while it still isn't in the same class the West Indies and Australia they are better than I though and even though I still have them 5th, they are much closer to England and separated them selves from the teams below them.
    Aus. XI
    Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2


    W.I. XI
    Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4

    S.A. XI
    Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Waite+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2

    Eng. XI
    Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3

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    yeah the likes of MoYo and YK have finished much higher than I thought they would which I guess helps the batting depth. Although there is no way I would put inzy above the likes of Miandad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyear2 View Post
    Australia ATG XI
    Arthur Morris
    Robert Simpson(5)^
    Sir Donald Bradman*
    Greg Chappell^
    Ricky Ponting
    Allan Border
    Adam Gilchrist+
    Alan Davidson(3)
    Shane Warne(4)^
    Denis Lillee(1)
    Glenn McGrath(2)

    West Indies ATG XI
    Gordon Greenidge
    Sir Conrad Hunte
    George Headley*
    Sir I.V.A. Richards^
    Brian Lara^
    Sir Garfield Sobers(5)^
    Sir Clyde Walcott+
    Malcolm Marshall(1)
    Michael Holding(3)
    Curtly Ambrose(2)
    Joel Garner(4)

    South Africa ATG XI
    Barry Richards^
    Graeme Smith*^
    Hashim Amla
    Graeme Pollock
    Jacques Kallis(5)^
    Dudley Nourse
    Michael Procter(3)
    John Waite+
    Hugh Tayfield(4)
    Dale Steyn(2)
    Alan Donald (1)

    England ATG XI
    Sir Jack Hobbs
    Sir Leonard Hutton
    Walter Hammond^
    Denis Compton
    Ken Barrington
    Sir Ian Botham(5)^
    Allan Knott+
    Harold Larwood(2)
    Jim Laker(4)
    Fred Trueman(1)
    Sydney Barnes(3)

    Pakistan ATG XI
    Saeed Anwar
    Hanif Mohammad
    Younis Khan^
    Javed Miandad^
    Inzamam Ul-Haq^
    Mushtaq Mohammad(5)
    Imran Khan(2)*
    Rashid Latif+
    Wasim Akram(3)
    Fazal Mahmood(4)
    Waqar Youis(1)
    MoYo doesn't make the team, but Younis and especially Saeed rated quite higher than I had expected. Still don't rate Hanif that highly though. Inzi and Javed are of course world class.
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    If you had watched Saeed Anwar bat you wouldn't be saying that.

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    I actually did, obviously only when he played againts us, but for me he never really stood out in my memory.

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    Attacking Team vs Conservative Team

    M. Hayden
    V. Sehwag
    V. Richards
    B. Lara
    K. Miller
    G. Sobers
    I. Botham
    A. Gilchrist
    F. Trueman
    S. Warne
    D. Lillee


    G. Boycott
    H. Sutcliffe
    D. Bradman
    R. Dravid
    J. Kallis
    K. Barrington
    A. Knott
    R. Hadlee
    J. Garner
    C. Grimmett
    G. McGrath
    Last edited by Monk; 31-08-2013 at 02:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smalishah84 View Post
    yeah the likes of MoYo and YK have finished much higher than I thought they would which I guess helps the batting depth. Although there is no way I would put inzy above the likes of Miandad.
    Is this opinion based purely on batting ability, or a combination of batting ability and persona? That is, do we penalise Inzy too much because he was obviously fat and rather gormless when compared to Miandad who was the opposite - athletic and quick.
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    Haha, Bradman was not conservative. He famously didn't hit the ball in the air but he was still a very attacking strokemaker; not hitting sixes doesn't change that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    Haha, Bradman was not conservative. He famously didn't hit the ball in the air but he was still a very attacking strokemaker; not hitting sixes doesn't change that.
    Wasn't there one innings where he went a bit mad and cleared the ropes several times before holing out to Fleetwood-Smith? - or am I confusing that with it being Chuck's benefit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    Attacking Team vs Conservative Team

    M. Hayden
    V. Sehwag
    V. Richards
    B. Lara
    K. Miller
    G. Sobers
    I. Botham
    A. Gilchrist
    F. Trueman
    S. Warne
    D. Lillee


    G. Boycott
    H. Sutcliffe
    D. Bradman
    R. Dravid
    J. Kallis
    K. Barrington
    A. Knott
    R. Hadlee
    J. Garner
    C. Grimmett
    G. McGrath
    That attacking XI would play some exciting innings, but usually be beaten by the conservative one.



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