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    Last edited by watson; 08-07-2013 at 07:04 AM.
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    Len Hutton - Jack Hobbs - Ted Dexter - Peter May - Walter Hammond - Frank Woolley - Ian Botham - Alan Knott - Hedley Verity - John Snow - Fred Trueman

    Victor Trumper - Bill Lawry - Don Bradman - Greg Chappell - Allan Border - Keith Miller - Adam Gilchrist - Alan Davidson - Shane Warne - Dennis Lillee - Glenn McGrath

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    Screw all the haters! I'm putting B.Richards, Pollock and Procter in my ATG team today. Ultra aggressive today! Beat this pricks!

    - B. Richards
    - G. Greenidge
    - D. Bradman
    - G. Pollock
    - V. Richards
    - G. Sobers
    - A Gilchrist
    - M. Procter
    - M. Marshall
    - S. Warne
    - D. Lillee


    I defy ANYONE to beat them!
    i like this team a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    Screw all the haters! I'm putting B.Richards, Pollock and Procter in my ATG team today. Ultra aggressive today! Beat this pricks!

    - B. Richards
    - G. Greenidge
    - D. Bradman
    - G. Pollock
    - V. Richards
    - G. Sobers
    - A Gilchrist
    - M. Procter
    - M. Marshall
    - S. Warne
    - D. Lillee


    I defy ANYONE to beat them!
    Very good, I personally just can't place anyone ahead of Hutton because of what he did, who he did it againts and what he had to overcome to do it and Hobbs was the master, though his level of competition was less stellar. Barry is next though.

    Pollock over Lara, Sachin and Headley is a bit tougher because as much as I have come to admire Pollock, he plyed his trade mainly in South Africa while Barry went out to conquer the world and he just didn't face the quality of bowlers that BCL did. Tebdulkar has 51 Test Hundreds and Headley was Atlas and meant more to a very weak team and was seen as some to be as talented as the Don. I have less of an issue placing Pollock over Chappel as a better bat, but Chappel keeps his place in my second team because of his batting aided by his amazing slip catching, plus we already have a lefty in Lara.

    Actually have no problems with Pollock as he was probably the best combination of batsman, bowler and fielder after Sobers while not weakening the batting or the bowling and he prospered at all three elements at the same time.
    Aus. XI
    Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2


    W.I. XI
    Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4

    S.A. XI
    Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Cameron+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2

    Eng. XI
    Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    Screw all the haters! I'm putting B.Richards, Pollock and Procter in my ATG team today. Ultra aggressive today! Beat this pricks!

    - B. Richards
    - G. Greenidge
    - D. Bradman
    - G. Pollock
    - V. Richards
    - G. Sobers
    - A Gilchrist
    - M. Procter
    - M. Marshall
    - S. Warne
    - D. Lillee


    I defy ANYONE to beat them!
    Hmm, not using anybody you've already chosen..

    Hobbs
    Sutcliffe
    Headley
    Kallis
    Hammond
    Chappell*
    Knott+
    Hadlee
    Murali
    Ambrose
    McGrath

    Would probably lose but thats the best I can come up with :P Love your team.
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    ATG World XI
    1. J.B Hobbs 2. H. Sutcliffe 3. D.G Bradman 4. W.R Hammond 5. G.S Sobers 6. M.J Procter 7. A.C Gilchrist 8. M.D Marshall 9. S.K Warne 10. M. Muralitharan 11. G.D McGrath


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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    Screw all the haters! I'm putting B.Richards, Pollock and Procter in my ATG team today. Ultra aggressive today! Beat this pricks!

    - B. Richards
    - G. Greenidge
    - D. Bradman
    - G. Pollock
    - V. Richards
    - G. Sobers
    - A Gilchrist
    - M. Procter
    - M. Marshall
    - S. Warne
    - D. Lillee


    I defy ANYONE to beat them!
    Hobbs
    Hutton
    Macartney (Headley)
    Hammond
    Worrell (Tendulkar)
    Miller
    Imran
    Knott +
    Hadlee
    Larwood (McGrath)
    Muralitharan

    Given alternatives for all my unconventional selections. I reckon that side would give yours a run for its money; only the Bradman factor, IMO.

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    THE POLITICALLY INCORRECT / ANTI THOUGHT POLICE ATG XI:

    01. Barry Richards
    02. Bob Simpson
    03. Don Bradman
    04. Graeme Pollock
    05. Ken Barrington
    06. Keith Miller
    07. John Waite
    08. Ray Lindwall
    09. Dennis Lillee
    10. Bill Johnston
    11. Arthur Mailey

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    Quote Originally Posted by watson View Post
    THE POLITICALLY INCORRECT / ANTI THOUGHT POLICE ATG XI:

    01. Barry Richards
    02. Bob Simpson
    03. Don Bradman
    04. Graeme Pollock
    05. Ken Barrington
    06. Keith Miller
    07. John Waite
    08. Ray Lindwall
    09. Dennis Lillee
    10. Bill Johnston
    11. Arthur Mailey
    the totally anti logic XI

    barry richards
    syd barnes
    stewie dempster
    andy ganteaume
    chateshwar pujara (c)
    taslim arif (wk)
    mike procter
    jj ferris
    hv horden
    jack cowie
    wm clark

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    Duleeeep. Or is 12 tests enough? Surely Jackson could find his way in there somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coronis View Post
    Duleeeep. Or is 12 tests enough? Surely Jackson could find his way in there somewhere.
    No 12 is too many. He has had too many chances to prove himself and although successful, he has no place in the team
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    Quote Originally Posted by bagapath View Post
    the totally anti logic XI

    barry richards
    syd barnes
    stewie dempster
    andy ganteaume
    chateshwar pujara (c)
    taslim arif (wk)
    mike procter
    jj ferris
    hv horden
    jack cowie
    wm clark
    I think that the 'Straw Man XI' is more suitable.

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    Nah straw man would pick a team of proven players I reckon.
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    From the other thread Watson you were daring someone to start a new thread about criteria, I'm not going to do that as its fine to discuss it in here, but what I am interested in is what does an up and coming cricketer have to do to be good option for an ATG Test side in the future? Lets just look at a certain type of cricketer, such as a batsman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    From the other thread Watson you were daring someone to start a new thread about criteria, I'm not going to do that as its fine to discuss it in here, but what I am interested in is what does an up and coming cricketer have to do to be good option for an ATG Test side in the future? Lets just look at a certain type of cricketer, such as a batsman.
    From the current crop, I would say that Philander would be up there given one more year of sustaining what he has done up till now. Hashim Amla is already there courtesy of the last 2 years or so. Pietersen was taken to be of ATG status within 5 years of his test debut. So it follows that around 3 years or thereabouts of sustained brilliance (crazy brilliance) should be enough to put you there, I think
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyear2 View Post
    Very good, I personally just can't place anyone ahead of Hutton because of what he did, who he did it againts and what he had to overcome to do it and Hobbs was the master, though his level of competition was less stellar. Barry is next though.

    Pollock over Lara, Sachin and Headley is a bit tougher because as much as I have come to admire Pollock, he plyed his trade mainly in South Africa while Barry went out to conquer the world and he just didn't face the quality of bowlers that BCL did. Tebdulkar has 51 Test Hundreds and Headley was Atlas and meant more to a very weak team and was seen as some to be as talented as the Don. I have less of an issue placing Pollock over Chappel as a better bat, but Chappel keeps his place in my second team because of his batting aided by his amazing slip catching, plus we already have a lefty in Lara.

    Actually have no problems with Pollock as he was probably the best combination of batsman, bowler and fielder after Sobers while not weakening the batting or the bowling and he prospered at all three elements at the same time.
    Didn't one of his best innings come in England where he scored some 128 runs when rest of the team collapsed him. It is one of the three innings that made it DoG's initial list of great innings. Playing 3 ATG knocks in such a short career is testament to Pollock's brilliance.

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    A nice article on Mike Procter who may have been the best of the three.

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