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    Best of both worlds.
    Aus. XI
    Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2


    W.I. XI
    Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4

    S.A. XI
    Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Waite+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2

    Eng. XI
    Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3

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    It's about time we have a best captain thread
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    10 bucks on Bradman.
    ATG World XI
    1. J.B Hobbs 2. H. Sutcliffe 3. D.G Bradman 4. W.R Hammond 5. G.S Sobers 6. M.J Procter 7. A.C Gilchrist 8. M.D Marshall 9. S.K Warne 10. M. Muralitharan 11. G.D McGrath

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    Lefties XI (batsmen can bowl with their right and bowlers can bat with their right)

    Graeme Smith*
    Matthew Hayden
    Kumar Sangakkara
    Graeme Pollock
    Brian Lara
    Garry Sobers
    Adam Gilchrist+
    Wasim Akram
    Alan Davidson
    Bishan Bedi
    Bill Johnston

    Very strong batting of course, but I think the area where they lose out is spin bowling, i.e compared to a Murali/Warne, or any of the other top tier spinners (Barnes, O'Reilly, Grimmett, Laker). Perhaps Verity in for Bedi?
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    one team for both ODIs and Tests (without altering batting positions)

    hayden
    sehwag
    ponting
    richards
    lara
    dhoni +
    pollock
    hadlee
    akram
    murali
    mcgrath

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coronis View Post
    . Perhaps Verity in for Bedi?
    One of Verity, Underwood or Wardle for sure....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coronis View Post
    Lefties XI (batsmen can bowl with their right and bowlers can bat with their right)

    Graeme Smith*
    Matthew Hayden
    Kumar Sangakkara
    Graeme Pollock
    Brian Lara
    Garry Sobers
    Adam Gilchrist+
    Wasim Akram
    Alan Davidson
    Bishan Bedi
    Bill Johnston

    Very strong batting of course, but I think the area where they lose out is spin bowling, i.e compared to a Murali/Warne, or any of the other top tier spinners (Barnes, O'Reilly, Grimmett, Laker). Perhaps Verity in for Bedi?
    Underwood for Bedi (although they were very different bowlers, and i depends on your preference, I guess). Bruce Reid for Bill Johnston.

    Also, replace Graeme Smith with either Arthur Morris or Neil Harvey, with Lara a number 3, and Sanga at 5.

    So, it would be:

    Hayden
    Morris/ Harvey
    Lara
    Pollock
    Sangakkara
    Sobers
    Gilly +
    Wasim
    Davidson
    Reid
    Underwood/ Bedi
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    Quote Originally Posted by harsh.skm View Post
    Underwood for Bedi (although they were very different bowlers, and i depends on your preference, I guess). Bruce Reid for Bill Johnston.

    Also, replace Graeme Smith with either Arthur Morris or Neil Harvey, with Lara a number 3, and Sanga at 5.

    So, it would be:

    Hayden
    Morris/ Harvey
    Lara
    Pollock
    Sangakkara
    Sobers
    Gilly +
    Wasim
    Davidson
    Reid
    Underwood/ Bedi
    lefties XI no.3 without using the players you both have selected

    justin langer
    saeed anwar
    david gower
    andy flower (wk)
    allan border
    clive lloyd (c)
    trevor goddard
    frank woolley
    shakib al hasan
    chaminda vaas
    bill voce

    that batting line-up is pretty handy

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    Quote Originally Posted by bagapath View Post
    lefties XI no.3 without using the players you both have selected

    justin langer
    saeed anwar
    david gower
    andy flower (wk)
    allan border
    clive lloyd (c)
    trevor goddard
    frank woolley
    shakib al hasan
    chaminda vaas
    bill voce

    that batting line-up is pretty handy
    Batting's handy, as you said! I am pretty sure Roy Frederiks, Bill Lawry, Bert Sutcliffe and Alister Cook should get one above Langer, and maybe Anwar too.

    Gilmour ahead of Goddard/Woolley, and Wardle/Verity ahead of Shakib as well, maybe? Don't need too many all rounders now, do we?

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    not scored a double hundred, never taken a ten-fer XI

    saeed anwar
    desmond haynes
    mark waugh
    richie richardson
    colin cowdrey
    andrew flintoff
    alan knott +
    ray lindwall
    joel garner
    fred titmus
    bob willis

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    Herb Sutcliffe
    Barry Richards
    Mark Waugh
    Vijay Hazare
    Mike Hussey
    Mike Procter
    Alan Knott+
    Ray Lindwall
    Joel Garner
    Bill Johnston
    Fred Titmus

    Not sure who would captain the side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bagapath View Post
    one team for both ODIs and Tests (without altering batting positions)

    hayden
    sehwag
    ponting
    richards
    lara
    dhoni +
    pollock
    hadlee
    akram
    murali
    mcgrath
    Just seen this, I would flick Dhoni and make Gilchrist open in both formats, it's pretty much the same tactic as opening with Sehwag anyway. Then you can play Tendulkar or Chappell or someone and your batting doesn't spontaneously combust after getting past #5.
    And we still haven't walked in the glow of each other's majestic presence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    Just seen this, I would flick Dhoni and make Gilchrist open in both formats, it's pretty much the same tactic as opening with Sehwag anyway. Then you can play Tendulkar or Chappell or someone and your batting doesn't spontaneously combust after getting past #5.
    Gilly not good enough to open in tests for sure. And Sachin is less effective in ODIs if thrown in middle order.

    If batting is your problem, drop McGrath and bring in imran. Imran, Dhoni, pollock, hadlee and akram is the best 6 to 10 you will ever get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bagapath View Post
    Gilly not good enough to open in tests for sure. And Sachin is less effective in ODIs if thrown in middle order.

    If batting is your problem, drop McGrath and bring in imran. Imran, Dhoni, pollock, hadlee and akram is the best 6 to 10 you will ever get.
    People probably would have said the same about Sehwag, had it never been tried. He started out as a lower order dasher too. And he never developed an opening batsman's technique, he just relied on his eye and co-ordination, which Gilly possessed in spades. I think Gilchrist could well have done a top job as an aggressive modern opener.



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