And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW
Yeah we don't crap in the first world; most of us would actually have no idea what that was emanating from Ajmal's backside. Why isn't it roses and rainbows like what happens here? PEWS's retort to Ganeshran on Daemon's picture depicting Ajmal's excreta
All Rounders ATXI
Wilfred Rhodes | Charles Macartney | Jacques Kallis | Garry Sobers | Aubrey Faulkner | Keith Miller* | Adam Gilchrist +| Ian Botham | Imran Khan | Mike Procter | Richard Hadlee
I was confused between Trevor Goddard and Wilfred Rhodes? I wanted the best spin all rounder, and I assumed Rhodes was better. Anybody know more about him? WG Grace, Eddie Barlow, Kapil Dev, Clive Rice, Shaun Pollock, Shane Watson, Freddie Flintoff, Tony Greig, Mushtaq Mohammad and Vinoo Mankad come the closest. Not counting Wasim Akram and Alan Davidson as all rounders. Better openers, anybody?
Fred Spofforth, 'The Demon Speaks'The figures Sir Home Hordon has shown me of what Grace did in matches against me, 37 innings, 1042 runs, 28.16 average, considerably less than his general average, hears out my theory that I never had any particular difficulty in getting him out. I clean bowled him seven times, ACM Croome says that WG told him that on any wicket he never knew when I should bowl him. This may have been due in part to my artfulness......
1. Wilfred Rhodes
2. Trevor Goddard
3. Garfield Sobers
4. Jacques Kallis
5. Keith Miller
6. Aubrey Faulkner
7. Adam Gilchrist †
8. Mike Procter
9. Imran Khan
10. Richard Hadlee
11. Alan Davidson
Who takes the new ball!? Argh!
Oh for a strong arm and a walking stick
Incidently, Wildred Rhodes averaged 36.72 (2 centuries) when opening the innings.
Otherwise 23.13 (2 fifties).
Need Trevor Goddard. Not sure if Charles Macartney qualifies as an allrounder with just 45 wickets in 35 matches.
RIP Phil Hughes. Forever 63*
Frank Woolley stiff to miss out tbh.
"The Australian cricket captain is the Prime Minister Australia wishes it had. Steve Waugh is that man, Michael Clarke is not." - Jarrod Kimber
RIP Fardin Qayyumi and Craig Walsh - true icons of CricketWeb.
Benaud as a spinner in the all rounders XI?
1. Trevor Goddard (6)
2. Jack Gregory (5)
3. Jaques Kallis (10)
4. Garry Sobers (9)
5. Keith Miller (c) (3)
6. Ian Botham (8)
7. Adam Gilchrist (wk)
8. Richie Benaud (7)
9. Imran Khan (2)
10. Richard Hadlee (1)
11. Alan Davidson (4)
01. Farokh Enginner+
02. Trevor Goddard
03. Jaques Kallis
04. Garfield Sobers
05. Aubrey Faulkner
06. Frank Woolley
07. Keith Miller
08. Mike Proctor
09. Imran Khan*
10. Richie Benaud
11. Richard Hadlee
Engineer was a regular opening batsman for India from 1965 to 1975 so he slots nicely into the No.1 spot.
Also, I like a balanced attack so I've included 3 spinners, or 4 if you count Sobers
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Not sure if we are any closer to a consensus on any of the XI's, but in what order do we rate the different teams so far?
Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2
Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4
Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Cameron+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2
Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3
cannot believe Kapil Dev Nikhanj is not there in the allrounders XI..Man had the best record against the best team of the era or may be forever..
2 West Indies
The gap is marginal. If no Don, Australia wouldn't be first. In fact I think we'd be third if he was replaced by a Ponting/McCabe/Waugh/Harvey (whoever is next) type.
South Africa, Pakistan and India are next but I haven't worked out the order quite yet, but it's probably the order I've named them.
New Zealand in seventh, followed by Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe and Bangladesh.
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