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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    Haha yeah I was just extending the piss take.
    Just been doing some light reading and after some research my new ATG World XI

    1 Matthew Elliott
    2 Bruce Laird
    3 Asanka Gurusinghe
    4 David Houghton
    5 Usman Afzaal
    6 Mohsin Khan
    7 Lee Germon
    8 Lance Klusener
    9 Adam Huckle
    10 Chris Old
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    It should be noted that I refused to pick every other Test Cricketer as no other Test Cricketer ever walked in any of the players selected shoes, therefore I couldn't judge them fairly, so alas this is the new ATG XI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    Just been doing some light reading and after some research my new ATG World XI

    1 Matthew Elliott
    2 Bruce Laird
    3 Asanka Gurusinghe
    4 David Houghton
    5 Usman Afzaal
    6 Mohsin Khan
    7 Lee Germon
    8 Lance Klusener
    9 Adam Huckle
    10 Chris Old
    11 Aaqib Javed

    It should be noted that I refused to pick every other Test Cricketer as no other Test Cricketer ever walked in any of the players selected shoes, therefore I couldn't judge them fairly, so alas this is the new ATG XI.
    None from the 1890s NUFAN?

    I thought that WA Woof's 754 wickets at 17.73, or AW Mold's 1673 wickets 15.54 a piece would make them a shoe-in. In comparison Chris Old's FC Average of 23.48 is pretty ordinary and should exclude him from your team.
    Len Hutton - Jack Hobbs - Ted Dexter - Peter May - Walter Hammond - Frank Woolley - Ian Botham - Alan Knott - Hedley Verity - John Snow - Fred Trueman

    Victor Trumper - Bill Lawry - Don Bradman - Greg Chappell - Allan Border - Keith Miller - Adam Gilchrist - Alan Davidson - Shane Warne - Dennis Lillee - Glenn McGrath

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    I'd be barking mad if I included Woof in my XI.


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    Okay guys, which of these teams do you think looks better.

    Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Bradman, Pollock, Hammond, Sobers, Gilchrist, Marshall, Warne, Murali, McGrath

    or

    Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Bradman, Pollock, Hammond, Sobers, Gilchrist, Marshall, Barnes, Murali, McGrath
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    1. J.B Hobbs 2. H. Sutcliffe 3. D.G Bradman 4. W.R Hammond 5. G.S Sobers 6. A.C Gilchrist 7. Imran Khan 8. M.D Marshall 9. S.K Warne 10. M. Muralitharan 11. G.D McGrath

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coronis View Post
    Okay guys, which of these teams do you think looks better.

    Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Bradman, Pollock, Hammond, Sobers, Gilchrist, Marshall, Warne, Murali, McGrath

    or

    Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Bradman, Pollock, Hammond, Sobers, Gilchrist, Marshall, Barnes, Murali, McGrath
    since it is the same team except for 1 player I think looks wise Shane Warne might have been better than Barnes....so the first team is better looks wise.
    And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coronis View Post
    Okay guys, which of these teams do you think looks better.

    Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Bradman, Pollock, Hammond, Sobers, Gilchrist, Marshall, Warne, Murali, McGrath

    or

    Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Bradman, Pollock, Hammond, Sobers, Gilchrist, Marshall, Barnes, Murali, McGrath
    The latter IMO. Even aside from the fact that I think Barnes was better than Warne, it's better balanced with the extra seamer(ish).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coronis View Post
    Okay guys, which of these teams do you think looks better.

    Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Bradman, Pollock, Hammond, Sobers, Gilchrist, Marshall, Warne, Murali, McGrath

    or

    Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Bradman, Pollock, Hammond, Sobers, Gilchrist, Marshall, Barnes, Murali, McGrath
    I would say the second one, because even though I belive Warne would be the better spinner (especially in modern conditions), the fact that you are only playing two specialst pace bowlers, Barnes would be able to deliver some cover for that at first change. He would revert to spin later in the innings and on the last day in particular if required.
    Aus. XI
    Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2


    W.I. XI
    Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4

    S.A. XI
    Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Cameron+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2

    Eng. XI
    Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3

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    How about

    Hutton | Hobbs | Bradman | Richards | Tendulkar/ Hammond | Sobers | Gilchrist | Marshall | Warne/ Muralitharan | Lillee | Barnes |

    Lillee over Mcgrath as Barnes at best is another medium pacer and so more mimicks Mcgrath and so better served by another full out agressive quick.

    Again based on if Barnes should be included, which again I not convinced he does.

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    yeah barnes instead of mcgrath i'd agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyear2 View Post
    How about

    Hutton | Hobbs | Bradman | Richards | Tendulkar/ Hammond | Sobers | Gilchrist | Marshall | Warne/ Muralitharan | Lillee | Barnes |

    Lillee over Mcgrath as Barnes at best is another medium pacer and so more mimicks Mcgrath and so better served by another full out agressive quick.

    Again based on if Barnes should be included, which again I not convinced he does.
    Agree completely.

    Barnes was probably a yard or two slower than McGrath, but he appeared to have the same nagging accuracy and steep bounce. And of course he bowled with a lot more variation. Both are superb additions to any attack.

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    i want to see a tournament featuring sheet anchors + accurate bowlers in one team, aggressive batters + strike bowlers in another and players who could change gears either ways in the third team. will avoid bradman to ensure all three teams are equally balanced.

    gavaskar
    boycott
    dravid
    kallis
    border
    s.pollock
    healy+
    akram
    grimmett
    laker
    mcgrath

    vs

    sehwag
    trumper
    richards
    lara
    sobers
    botham
    gilchrist +
    marshall
    warne
    waqar
    murali

    hobbs
    hutton
    ponting
    tendulkar
    hammond
    imran
    knott+
    lillee
    barnes
    ambrose
    o'reilly
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    01. Jack Hobbs
    02. Len Hutton
    03. Ricky Pontin
    04. Sachin Tendulkar
    05. Walter Hammond
    06. Imran Khan
    07. Alan Knott
    08. Dennis Lillee
    09. Sydney Barnes
    10. Curtly Ambrose
    11. Bill O'Reilly

    Can't see that team losing to the other 2.

    Lillee-Ambrose-Imran-Barnes-O'Reilly is too strong an attack.

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    An all-rounder combo vs a non all-rounder combo. No Bradman to be fair.

    Non all rounders- top order (1-6) batsmen have never taken a wicket in tests. Best pure keeper available. Lower order (8-11) have a batting average under 15.

    All rounders- every player selected needs to have taken at least 100 wickets in tests. Keeper must average 40 plus. All batsman must have a batting average above 25.

    Non all rounder combo

    - Herb Sutcliffe
    - Gordon Greenidge
    - George Headley
    - Peter May
    - Brian Lara
    - Colin Cowdrey
    - Godfrey Evans +
    - Curtly Ambrose
    - Dennis Lillee
    - Glenn McGrath
    - Muralitharan

    All-rounder combo

    - Wilfred Rhodes
    - Trevor Bailey
    - Jaques Kallis
    - Garry Sobers
    - Keith Miller
    - Tony Greig
    - Adam Gilchrist +
    - Ian Botham
    - Imran Khan
    - Kapil Dev
    - Richard Hadlee


    What do you think? Couldn't squeeze Benaud in to the second line up based on my own criteria!

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    Was Eddie Barlow an allrounder? Trevor Goddard certainly was.

    Barlow-Goddard to open for the 'All-Rounder Combo' and I'll go for them.



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