Bond's repautation can't really be sustained on his test figures alone. Superficially good his average is assisted by wrecking ball efforts against Zimbo and Bangers.His 2 tests against India in NZ, though against an impressive batting line up, were played on landmine pitches judging by the scores and he was slighted bested by Daryl Tuffey anyway. A terror on the seaming pitches in NZ he struggled away against Aus, SL and SA.
On ODI figures there is no question his performance sustains his reputation. His fitness problems probably explain why he was a fitful performer in tests and a consistent performer in loi's. In the latter form he is definately a great.
So, anyone who says "Sunil is the greatest opener ever because he succeeded against the pace might of the WIs in the 70s and 80s" is kind of wrong, or manipulating the truth...
gavaskar's primary duty was not making runs , but not to get out. how many balls dd he survive in those matches against mighty pace attack ? ( out of curiosity)
Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2
Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4
Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Cameron+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2
Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3
Secondly I don't rate Wasim that highly for reasons stated previously and frequently, though fully understand why he was picked by cricinfo for the first xi.
So please don't use the Lara/Sachin, Wasim/Waqar argument like it's a cut and dry case of who was better
A Simple study on allrounders:
Their batting average plus their wickets per match (a very good indicator of an allrounder's value to the team) x10. Implying that 5 wickets per match is the same as averging 50 (which of course is debatable).
Qualification: batting average over 20, wickets per match over 1.50. 1000 runs/100 wickets.
GS Sobers (WI) 83.05
Imran Khan (Pak) 78.83
Sir RJ Hadlee (NZ) 77.28
JH Kallis (ICC/SA) 74.37
Shakib Al Hasan (Ban) 72.41
SM Pollock (SA) 71.29
IT Botham (Eng) 71.09
CL Cairns (NZ) 68.69
MH Mankad (India) 68.29
KR Miller (Aus) 67.88
AK Davidson (Aus) 66.86
IK Pathan (India) 66.05
GP Swann (Eng) 65.92
MW Tate (Eng) 65.22
AW Greig (Eng) 64.74
TL Goddard (SA) 64.46
N Kapil Dev (India) 64.18
R Benaud (Aus) 63.82
MG Johnson (Aus) 63.62
Wasim Akram (Pak) 62.45
DL Vettori (ICC/NZ) 62.24
B Lee (Aus) 60.94
A Flintoff (Eng/ICC) 60.38
SCJ Broad (Eng) 59.08
MA Noble (Aus) 59.06
RR Lindwall (Aus) 58.53
G Giffen (Aus) 56.58
WPUJC Vaas (SL) 56.30
HH Streak (Zim) 55.58
RJ Shastri (India) 54.67
W Rhodes (Eng) 52.09
TE Bailey (Eng) 51.38
FJ Titmus (Eng) 51.16
Abdul Razzaq (Pak) 50.35
Intikhab Alam (Pak) 48.88
N Boje (SA) 48.49
AF Giles (Eng) 47.37
JE Emburey (Eng) 45.50
JG Bracewell (NZ) 45.30
R Illingworth (Eng) 43.24
Shakib WAG. Mankad is also shown to be a very valuable player.
It would be interesting to factor in a peak period of 50 matches, which should move Botham up a bit.
Greatest Ever Test XI: JB Hobbs, L Hutton, DG Bradman (c), IVA Richards, BC Lara, GS Sobers, AC Gilchrist (wk), Imran Khan, RJ Hadlee, MD Marshall, SK Warne 12th man: M Muralitharan
Favorite XI: WG Grace, VT Trumper, IVA Richards, DCS Compton, FMM Worrell (c), AC Gilchrist (wk), CL Cairns, SK Warne, FS Trueman, SE Bond, T Richardson 12th man: H Larwood
"Neither of them will have an international cricket career past 2016."
Blocky on Martin Guptill and Ish Sodhi. 20/11/2014.
I like this rating
And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW
Yeah we don't crap in the first world; most of us would actually have no idea what that was emanating from Ajmal's backside. Why isn't it roses and rainbows like what happens here? PEWS's retort to Ganeshran on Daemon's picture depicting Ajmal's excreta
Not attempting to pre-empt Monk here but my All Time New Zealand XI is as follows
Stephen Flerming (*)
Ian Smith (+)
12th Man: John R Reid
Agreed with Michael's team, more or less
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