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Left handed XI
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No David Gower!
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Lord Gah bowled right-handed too, didn't he? Famously got called for chucking too.
doesitmatter
U19 Cricketer
you need an instintive, tactically brilliant captain for this team..So Mark Taylor should be there instead of Roy F ..
watson
Banned
Border is probably the first amoung equals with respect to those 3 batsman.
But again, it depends on the needs of your middle-order. If you need a defensive batsman then Border. If you need a batsman who can throttle an attack then Harvey. And if you need an allround batsman who can construct a really big score then Sanga. It all depends on who is batting above and below them on the batting order.
For example, in an ATG team I would hesitate putting 3.Barrington, 4.Edrich, 5.Border, and 6.Leyland together as we'd all fall asleep if we had to watch them. However, Harvey at No.5 would transform that line-up
Migara
Cricketer Of The Year
Sangakara is on par with Gilchrist as a keeper. Easily exchangable. If regarded as a pure batsman, his 65+ average puts him even above Pollock and Sobers.
Jager
International Debutant
That argument of his average without the gloves means nothing to me. It's far more likely that he hit his peak after he gave up the gloves, instead of him being the second best batsman ever which I feel you're suggesting...
Sangakkara's keeping isn't too flash, I'd take Gilchrist anyday
Migara
Cricketer Of The Year
But his stats with gloves matter when it comes to keeper batsman, and that's when the cpomparison gets hypocritical. Sanga with gloves as good or better than Gilchrist, especially on spinning conditions.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Yeah I'd think about opening with Sanga. Funnily enough I'd open with Sanga if I had to pick a World XI right now (without handedness restrictions); I was thinking about it yesterday.
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Jack Newton to captain the team.
kyear2
Cricketer Of The Year
Two points.
1)Sangakkara was not as good a wicketkeeper as Gilchrist and few are capable as the destructive batting he produced in sometimes tough conditions. Gilchrist is with out doubt the greatest wicket keeper batsman of all time and if he were to be challenged it would be from Knott or Ames, not Sanga.
2) Sangakkara is not in the same class as Pollack or Sobers or for that matter Lara (or Border) no matter his average with or without the gloves. By your averages argument Barrington is better than Richards, Chappell, Lara and Ponting, and we all know simply that is not the case.
watson
Banned
I agree. Sanga with keeping duties is an entirely different proposition to Sanga as a specialist batsman. I think that it is obvious that the burden of keeping all day and then propping up the Sri Lankan batting was too much pressure.
Gilchrist by a moderate, but siginificant margin.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Best post.
watson
Banned
Should we be concerned about a singular Test match century and a bowling Strike Rate of 95.4 ?
Or is Goddard a classic case where the sum of the parts is way greater than the whole?
In other words, he's a ***y cricketer, end of story.
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kingkallis
International Coach
My Lefties
Matthew Hayden
Graeme Smith
Brian Lara
Graeme Pollock
Allan Border ( c )
Garry Sobers
Adam Gilchrist ( + )
Alan Davidson
Wasim Akram
Derek Underwood
Brett Schultz
12th man : Trevor Goddard
Matthew Hayden
Graeme Smith
Brian Lara
Graeme Pollock
Allan Border ( c )
Garry Sobers
Adam Gilchrist ( + )
Alan Davidson
Wasim Akram
Derek Underwood
Brett Schultz
12th man : Trevor Goddard
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Migara
Cricketer Of The Year
On the points you have mentioned, Gilchrist may be better than Sanga with gloves, but that is offset with his significant superior batting abilities than Gilchrist. And It's not Knott aor Ames that challenges him, Sanga and Flower as batsmen wicketkeepers.
#2, Average do matter, otherwise people would claim Ramiz Raja was better than Sachin Tendulkar. Average of 65+ with the bat is too significant to be left out, especially when comparing with Border and Harvey. And on Barrington, he was a bloody good player, ATG for sure if not fore his health issues later in his career.
watson
Banned
Your batting is already choc-a-block all the way down to at least Gilchrist. This makes Goddard's skills with the bat over-kill. So why not choose a bowler with a better Strike Rate than Goddard's 95 balls and give the bowling a boost?
Also, Underwood's record against the Windies is pretty ordinary. Unlike the Aussies they tended to treat him like a medium pacer and thrash him through mid-wicket/mid-on. As it turns out a much better idea than trying to hit him through the off-side.