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    Greatest Test XI- eras of dominance

    Which would you say is the greatest combo?

    Here are some contenders:

    Bradman's 1948 Invincibles

    S. Barnes
    A. Morris
    D. Bradman
    L. Hassett
    K. Miller
    N. Harvey
    S. Loxton
    R. Lindwall
    D. Tallon
    D. Ring
    B. Johnston

    Australia- Early 2000s

    M. Hayden
    J. Langer
    R. Ponting
    D. Martyn
    S. Waugh
    D. Lehmann
    A. Gilchrist
    S. Warne
    B. Lee
    J. Gillespie
    G. McGrath

    West Indies- Early '80s

    G. Greenidge
    D. Haynes
    V. Richards
    L Gomes
    A. Kallicharan
    C. Lloyd
    J. Dujon
    M. Marshall
    M. Holding
    A. Roberts
    J. Garner
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    Bradman's 1948 Invinsibles
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    they are all awesome
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    Bradman's side has a few key points in its favor imo:

    Bradman (obviously)

    Miller, an opening bowler who could bat anywhere from 3-6.

    Lindwall, an opening bowler who could have batted at 5-6.

    Tallon, one of the great keepers of all time.

    Morris/Barnes, a brilliant L/R hand opening combo.

    Harvey/Hassett/Bradman/Miller, perfectly balanced middle order.

    The shame is that O'Reilly didn't make that tour (I'm not sure why). Having him in the team would have made it EASILY the best ever.

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    I would go for the latter 2. The invincibles was more of a flash in the pan wasn't it? came together for a short period of time only. The other two were out there for a lot longer
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    How are we judging this:

    Which team's results in their era were the best/most dominant?
    Or which team would come out on top if they played some sort of triangular series?

    West Indies team either way though for mine.

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    Any other contenders? What about England's greatest era?

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    O'Reilly wasn't involved in 1948 from memory because he didn't think his body could handle bowling day long spells as he had done so pre war (although considering the great pace quartet of the invincibles and the fact that a new ball was due every 55 six ball overs, it would appear unlikely that he would be required to do so).

    Also 1948 Australia would be strengthened by bringing in Toshack for either Loxton or Ring (although both Johnson and McCool were better spinners than Ring imo)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michaelf7777777 View Post
    O'Reilly wasn't involved in 1948 from memory because he didn't think his body could handle bowling day long spells as he had done so pre war (although considering the great pace quartet of the invincibles and the fact that a new ball was due every 55 six ball overs, it would appear unlikely that he would be required to do so).

    Also 1948 Australia would be strengthened by bringing in Toshack for either Loxton or Ring (although both Johnson and McCool were better spinners than Ring imo)
    Fair enough. O'Reilly did play a test against NZ in 1948 (his last test). Shame he wasn't part of the Invincibles imo (just because it'd look good in history to have him in there)

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    The Australian side of:

    Hayden | Langer | Ponting | Waugh | Waugh | Martyn | Gilchrist | Warne | Lee | Gillespie | McGrath

    has to be up there. I'm not sure if they ever played a Test as that exact XI, but everyone in there is a world class player.

    1955 England also looks strong on paper:
    Hutton | Edrich/Graveney | May | Cowdrey | Compton | Bailey | Evans | Wardle | Tyson | Appleyard | Statham

    1953 counterparts look similarly good:
    Hutton | Edrich | May | Compton | Graveney | Bailey | Evans | Laker | Lock | Bedser | Trueman

    The 1920/21 Hypothetical Australian side:
    Bardsley | Collins | Macartney | Ryder | Armstrong | Pellew | Kellaway | Gregory | Oldfield | McDonald | Mailey

    And, finally, South Africa in Isolation
    Richards | Barlow | Goddard | Pollock | McEwan | Lindsay | Rice | Procter | Pollock | Le Roux | van der Bijl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    Any other contenders? What about England's greatest era?
    South Africa of the late 60's to 70's was/would have possibly been greater than them all.
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    The England team from 1929 was pretty useful;

    The MCC touring party was [1] :

    Percy Chapman (Kent) (Captain)
    Jack White (Somerset) (Deputy Captain)
    Douglas Jardine (Surrey)
    Jack Hobbs (Surrey)
    Herbert Sutcliffe (Yorkshire)
    Wally Hammond (Gloucestershire)
    Patsy Hendren (Middlesex)
    Ernest Tyldesley (Lancashire)
    Phil Mead (Hampshire)
    Maurice Leyland (Yorkshire)
    Maurice Tate (Sussex)
    George Geary (Leicestershire)
    George Duckworth (Lancashire) (wicketkeeper)
    Les Ames (Kent) (wicketkeeper)
    Harold Larwood (Nottinghamshire)
    "Tich" Freeman (Kent)
    Sam Staples (Nottinghamshire)

    And they won this classic Test match by 12 runs with JC White taking '8 for' in the second innings;

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/62565.html
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    The South Arrican team of the early 70's deserved to be on the list, damm good team. Additionally in the mid 80's when Walsh and Richardson replaced Roberts and Kallicharan respectively was probably the better team.
    Aus. XI
    Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2


    W.I. XI
    Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4

    S.A. XI
    Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Cameron+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2

    Eng. XI
    Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3

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    So much rose tinted galsses re: Lee in the 200x Australian team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valer View Post
    So much rose tinted galsses re: Lee in the 200x Australian team.
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