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    When great careers overlap

    I found this match, from 1974, in which Sobers and Botham were on opposite sides. The former WI great dismissed the future England star in the second innings (and somehow, Notts were unable to get a target of 17 in two overs! Why didn't Sobers open?).

    Any other examples of a great player right at the end of the line meeting one who was just starting out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stumpski View Post
    I found this match, from 1974, in which Sobers and Botham were on opposite sides. The former WI great dismissed the future England star in the second innings (and somehow, Notts were unable to get a target of 17 in two overs! Why didn't Sobers open?).

    Any other examples of a great player right at the end of the line meeting one who was just starting out?
    Viv's in there as well.


    One of the great shames in cricket it that Viv and Sober's careers didn't coincide. Viv started playing tests juuuust after Sobers finished.

    Imagine the two of them batting together late on day one against a tired bowling attack...

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    Viv Richards and Brian Lara once shared a partnership in an international match. Not sure if anyone realized the significance at that time. Passing on the torch from cult West Indian batsman of one generation to that of another.

    EDIT: Scorecard - 3rd ODI: England v West Indies at Lord's, May 27, 1991. 20 run partnership for the 4th wicket.
    Last edited by ankitj; 31-07-2012 at 02:28 AM.

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    There are some fairly well-documented cases - Rhodes bowling to Bradman on the 1930 tour for instance, or WG playing against Hobbs ... Richards was in that 1974 match yes, I'm trying to establish whether he ever played against Warne.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    Viv's in there as well.


    One of the great shames in cricket it that Viv and Sober's careers didn't coincide. Viv started playing tests juuuust after Sobers finished.

    Imagine the two of them batting together late on day one against a tired bowling attack...
    Richards had disciplinary issues early in his career I think, without which he might have played against Denness's team in early 1974 (Sobers' last series). They would have competed a few times in domestic cricket in the early 70s I imagine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stumpski View Post
    There are some fairly well-documented cases - Rhodes bowling to Bradman on the 1930 tour for instance, or WG playing against Hobbs ... Richards was in that 1974 match yes, I'm trying to establish whether he ever played against Warne.
    Viv's last test was 1991, and Warne's first test was 1992.

    Not sure Warne would have played County Cricket before his test debut, so unlikely they played against each other. Possible though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    Viv's last test was 1991, and Warne's first test was 1992.

    Not sure Warne would have played County Cricket before his test debut, so unlikely they played against each other. Possible though.
    I was thinking about the 1993 tour - Viv was playing for Glamorgan that year, but he missed the match against the Australians. So it looks like a no.

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    Imran to Tendulkar in 89-90 when Tendulkar debuted and Imran played his last test in 90-91
    And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW

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    Yes, good call and I think Tendulkar played against Qadir as well.

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    Nasser Hussain and Andrew Strauss

    Still giggle about that run out though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smalishah84 View Post
    Imran to Tendulkar in 89-90 when Tendulkar debuted and Imran played his last test in 90-91
    They had fair amount of overlap actually.

    Marshall bowling to Tendulkar is an overlap that not many would have known (till Robelinda uploaded a video on YouTube). They played 4 ODIs together

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    Hadlee and Tendulkar in this match, plus the rest of the series. It was only SRT's second series, and I don't think Hadlee lasted too long after it.

    3rd Test: New Zealand v India at Auckland, Feb 22-26, 1990 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8ankitj View Post
    They had fair amount of overlap actually.

    Marshall bowling to Tendulkar is an overlap that not many would have known (till Robelinda uploaded a video on YouTube). They played 4 ODIs together
    depends on what you define as a fair amount but Imran's career was pretty much over by then

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    Going back to the WI theme, Andy Roberts played one test in the 1974 series against England along side Sobers and Kanhai, both of who, iirc, were playing their final test series.

    Also with Kanhai, the 1975 WC final provided his last significant innings as well as Richards three run-outs. Admittedly Viv had a test 100 to his name by then though.
    Last edited by wpdavid; 31-07-2012 at 04:19 AM.

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    This match should have been perfect

    1st Test: England v Pakistan at Birmingham, Jun 3-8, 1971 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

    .. Imran Khan's first test and what should have been Colin Cowdrey's final one. Two test careers spanning best part of 40 years between them.


    Unfortunately the selectors spoilt it by flying out Cowdrey as a replacement in the Lillee & Thomson ashes three years later.
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