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2) See point 1.
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Vettori fix is simple.
Same as every other orthodox spin bowler: consistently bowl 15kms slower, pitch it wider of off stump and stop trying for the same old tired lbw/bowled with the arm ball. Shakib needs to do the same.
It's not going to turn him into Herath but it would give him a chance.
I think it was one of his strengths when he was a good bowler, and he's steadily become more and more reliant on it to the point of one-dimensionality. He's become a caricature of himself.
Variations in pace is nice but when people know what to expect it's not going to be more than good economical bowling. It's something most bowlers use to keep a batsman on his toes, not as an actual strike weapon. A flat delivery is a flat delivery - it's only good in the context of many, many teasing deliveries.
i overexaggerate when I make my points. I still think he's a very good bowler, I'd just like for him to be open-minded enough to return to orthodoxy (paradox?). He certainly has enough control that making these game plan changes wouldn't be impossible in a limited time frame.
Last edited by hendrix; 21-11-2012 at 04:48 AM.
I'm hopeful Vettori will score some runs for ND and then for NZ. A little concerned though that as I've posted before, he doesn't want to see himself as primarily a batsman, and secondly that his batting method will no longer succeed as he gets older.
Suspect most of us would agree that Vettori would ideally bat 7 for NZ, but of course that's where the wicketkeeper typically bats. It could work if we had either:
6: Wicket-keeper who is a genuine top-6 batsman
8: Bowler who will regularly contribute runs (someone like Wells if he improved his bowling sufficiently)
6: Batsman who can bowl well (wicket-taker, not containing bowler)
We don't have the other players to make either of these work right now. So it's back to the bat-6/bat-8 or even leave-out debate.
I'll be watching with interest to see how Vettori goes on return to Plunket Shield and in any warmup in South Africa. I hope he feels he has a point to prove with both bat and ball.
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Pretty sure he just got hit three times by Ellis there alone.
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Not bad but I'm not a fan of Ronchi and would prefer Patel over Vettori.
For me, my ideal is not far off from the current team:
*IMO, all middle order batsman should be blooded at 6 and move up as the incumbents lose form/retire. People like Ponting got their start there and when you consider that players of Duminy and Prince's quality are still batting that low in the order (ignoring SA's ridiculous batting depth) it just seems the fair thing to do for a youngster's career.
Making Brownlie an opener is unlikely to happen, but I want Watling to take the gloves because we don't have enough batting depth. I think he's been a very improved keeper. You can't keep and open, so he's gotta come in at 7.
Last edited by hendrix; 21-11-2012 at 02:56 PM.
I wish the best for the guy. If he's a very tidy wicketkeeper than I wouldn't mind selecting him purely on that basis, but from what i've seen of his batting, it's very limited. I don't know enough about him to know if he is a top keeper though.
I don't think much of van Wyk's keeping abilities, and I also hold him partially to blame for Taylor's loss of confidence at first slip.
McCullum was the best keeper we've had since Parore.
Just as an aside, talent wise, Ronchi is in a whole different league to Cameron Merchant.
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