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    Complains the contracts mean Wellington gets screwed.

    Advocates for a system where Wellington would be screwed anyway.
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    Well yeah Tendy is probably better than Bradman, but Bradman was 70 years ago, if he grew up in the modern era he'd still easily be the best. Though he wasn't, can understand the argument for Tendy even though I don't agree.
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    But it screws with everyone else, was his point really. Auckland wouldn't get to freeload their Munro runs and only lose him for a bit of NZ shorter forms.

    Interested in how Otago are going to cover Rutherford's elevation in the next couple of weeks. English import perhaps.

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    Contracts announced: New Zealand Cricket Contracts List Includes Six... | Stuff.co.nz

    I'm guessing the pecking order is something like: McCullum, Taylor, Southee, Williamson, Boult, Guptill, Mills, NcCullum, Ruds, Watling, Wagner, McC, Brownlie, Fulton, Dougeh, Anderson, Bartin, Elliot, Latham, Munro
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    Millmow's mail was bang on tbf, so Bartin's No. 20 you'd think. 'Latham, Anderson, Munro, Elliott, Bartin' was the order he chose.

    It is the work of coach Mike Hesson and this year, like every other, there are contentious calls. As captain, Brendon McCullum is top dog on $181,425 and Bruce Martin is understood to have nabbed No 20, worth $73,000.

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    Yeah, that's probably accurate. From Dougeh down, it's a bit difficult to pick as they're all fringe players who could drop out of the reckoning at very short notice.

    Really goes to show that there's big opportunities for vary rapid advancement in earning potential if you hit form at the right time. Six months ago, Mitch McC would've been earning barely enough from the NZC to live in a student scuzz-pit. Now he's likely to be cracking 150k+ if he can stay fit and keep taking wickets.

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    Given Vettori's continual absence and the lack of any other better alternatives, I think Brucey deserves to be in the 20. Munro and Elliott I'm less convinced about. Latham and Anderson are in there based on potential as much as anything, I guess.

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    When you have 20 contracts you're always going to have 5 or so guys who get in by the skin of their teeth.

    I'm torn as to whether the 20 contract system is good because it allows NZ to contract as many players as possible through both the national and provincial teams, or whether we should trim them down so the best players get paid a good living.

    I guess how the relationship between NZC and the IPL pans out could answer it. If there is continual scheduling conflict NZC might need to up their pay so players don't get tempted, but if we keep a window open we can freeride a bit of income for some of our players and pay the rest a bit more, especially the test specialists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    When you have 20 contracts you're always going to have 5 or so guys who get in by the skin of their teeth.

    I'm torn as to whether the 20 contract system is good because it allows NZ to contract as many players as possible through both the national and provincial teams, or whether we should trim them down so the best players get paid a good living.

    I guess how the relationship between NZC and the IPL pans out could answer it. If there is continual scheduling conflict NZC might need to up their pay so players don't get tempted, but if we keep a window open we can freeride a bit of income for some of our players and pay the rest a bit more, especially the test specialists.
    Well it's not exactly like the top players are struggling to make a living. The likes of McCullum and Taylor would be making well above $250,000. Supplement that with an extra couple hundred k from the portion of the ipl that they can attend, and they're doing pretty well. Think it's better to offer broader remuneration rather than just rewarding a few superstars, otherwise a lot of fc players will quickly lose interest and drop out of the game even younger than they currently do.

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    Yeah I wouldn't mind seeing 16-20 chosen solely on the likelihood of Test play within the next 24 months. Get Milne feeling like a full professional. If Munners swags a $3000 here or $2000 there in match fees that's fine. If he starts ringing counties (hoping they just look him up on Cricinfo rather than CW and Youtube) that's fine too.

    Anyway, NZC claims sweet revenge on Siddons for the big talk and **** output.

    Ronchi, Franklin, Arnel, Ryder, Gillespie, Papps, Jeets, Murdoch (to Otago possibly), McKay, Woodcock, Boam, Brodie, Tugaga, Houghton, Friday (Pollard, Blundell, Hutchinson, Orton etc.).

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    If Wellington try to fit all the safe names in the team this year they're going to get done. Their squad is unbalanced because they try to fit in all 10000 middle order allrounders and injury prone seamers.

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    I'm also looking forward to CD announcing they've added to their cupboard of imported young bowlers in the contracts, to take them up to owning 90% of all bowlers under 25 years of age. Because when you already have a good home grown stock the best thing you can do is steal everyone elses so they can't hit Carl Cachopa in the head.

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    Who would be keenest to pick up which All Star though. Not sure MAs would be turning to their Howsie constituents and saying 'bet you're thrilled we pulled off a bit of a coup with Woodcock, what a snare'.

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    steal everyone elses so they can't hit Carl Cachopa in the head.
    You only need 130kph to achieve that tbf, if that. Speaking of which, I'd presume a lot of the fringe Indian and Sri Lankan seamers are on Twitter. Kippax will have to look at the squads, if there's some of sufficient pace to cause a serious brain injury Carlchopa might be spared.

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