New Zealand doom and gloom thread - Page 21

Hurricane · 18-01-2013, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Days of Grace

What Brendon wants, Brendon gets. We'll just have to get used to that.

frick - I don't know how much more crap I can take if there is more to come. Losing is one thing...

Hurricane · 18-01-2013, 02:50 AM

Right flounce aside

Here is where each blackcap kiwi born was born.

Corey Anderson - CHCH
Astle - Palmy
Boult - Rotorua
Bracewell - Tauranga
Ellis - CHCH
Flynn - unknown
Franklin - Wellington
Fulton - CHCH
Guptil - Auckland
Hira - Auckland
Latham - CHCH
McClenaghan - Hastings
Baz - Dunedin
Nathan- Dunedin
Marto - CHCH
Mills - Auckland
Milne - Palmy
Neesham - Auckland
Nicol - Auckland
Oram - Palmy
Jeetan - Wellington
Southee - Whangarei
Ross - Wellington
Daniel Luca - Auckland (grew up in Hamilton)
Kane - Tauranga

No Hamiltonians. Shocking. Someone made a post here that cricket was dieing out in Auckland and was only strong now in CHCH, Hamilton, and Palmy. I am surprised by the large number of Palmerston north boys in this list tbh.

Anyway there are some Aucklanders there which is a good thing - Although the strong CHCH and Palmy contingent show that cricket may indeed be stronger there than other cities.

Very unscientific I know.

Where did Ross grow up?

Flem274* · 18-01-2013, 02:54 AM

Palmerston North Boys is one of the best sports schools in the country so it's no surprise really.

Auckland's exported a lot of players elsewhere. CD have three in their first eleven.

Hurricane · 20-01-2013, 02:24 PM

Andrew Alderson: Game over for test cricket - Cricket - NZ Herald News

Prince EWS · 20-01-2013, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hurricane

Andrew Alderson: Game over for test cricket - Cricket - NZ Herald News

straw man · 20-01-2013, 04:09 PM

Andrew Alderson surely NZ's best cricket journalist at present. Obviously cares about the game and follows it closely and that comes through in his writing - contrast to Richard Boock who seems to just want attention and to feel special.

Athlai · 21-01-2013, 01:47 AM

Seemed to ignore that NZ is ranked below Bangers in the ODI rankings. Could've been a pretty scathing remark edged that way.

Zinzan · 23-01-2013, 03:43 AM

Call me crazy, but I'm still holding out some hope that sanity will prevail and Taylor will once again be offered the test captaincy and accept it. I'm aware that horse is likely bolted, but I genuinely think NZ would be better off with McCullum taking the short forms and Taylor the longer form. What about a separate short-form and long-form coach as well?

Days of Grace · 23-01-2013, 04:03 AM

Don't mind the split captaincy idea but I think Taylor is only thinking about getting back onto the park again, tbh.

Should be one coach for all formats.

straw man · 23-01-2013, 04:14 AM

I think the split captaincy could work and Taylor might accept it if Hesson wasn't the coach. Don't see any way Taylor could be captain under Hesson though.

Bahnz · 23-01-2013, 04:20 AM

I agree it wouldn't be a bad idea, but it won't happen now. If Taylor wanted the test captaincy then he should've humbled his pride when Hesson and the NZC offered it to him.

straw man · 23-01-2013, 04:21 AM

Couldn't have accepted it with Hesson remaining as coach - would be unworkable

Bahnz · 23-01-2013, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by straw man

Couldn't have accepted it with Hesson remaining as coach - would be unworkable

Well then you'll be waiting for a while. This series win will have bought Hesson some serious time as coach. Even if NZ do terribly from now on (less likely given the return of several critical players) I can't see his place coming under pressure any sooner than the Champion's Trophy.

Mike5181 · 23-01-2013, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by straw man

Couldn't have accepted it with Hesson remaining as coach - would be unworkable

He managed to get through the test against Sri Lanka alright, and that was arguably an even worse position for him to be in.

Zinzan · 23-01-2013, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bahnz

I agree it wouldn't be a bad idea, but it won't happen now. If Taylor wanted the test captaincy then he should've humbled his pride when Hesson and the NZC offered it to him.

Disagree, I think everybody, including those pranksters from NZC understood the context in which Taylor declined it. Whether he would accept it or not is another matter, but they NZC should at least try to pursue it since things have cooled down.

23-01-2013, 03:43 AM	#308 (permalink)
Zinzan Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: cover point Posts: 9,740	Call me crazy, but I'm still holding out some hope that sanity will prevail and Taylor will once again be offered the test captaincy and accept it. I'm aware that horse is likely bolted, but I genuinely think NZ would be better off with McCullum taking the short forms and Taylor the longer form. What about a separate short-form and long-form coach as well? Last edited by Zinzan; 23-01-2013 at 03:50 AM.

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18-01-2013, 02:50 AM	#302 (permalink)
Hurricane International Captain Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Wellington Posts: 7,363	Right flounce aside Here is where each blackcap kiwi born was born. Corey Anderson - CHCH Astle - Palmy Boult - Rotorua Bracewell - Tauranga Ellis - CHCH Flynn - unknown Franklin - Wellington Fulton - CHCH Guptil - Auckland Hira - Auckland Latham - CHCH McClenaghan - Hastings Baz - Dunedin Nathan- Dunedin Marto - CHCH Mills - Auckland Milne - Palmy Neesham - Auckland Nicol - Auckland Oram - Palmy Jeetan - Wellington Southee - Whangarei Ross - Wellington Daniel Luca - Auckland (grew up in Hamilton) Kane - Tauranga No Hamiltonians. Shocking. Someone made a post here that cricket was dieing out in Auckland and was only strong now in CHCH, Hamilton, and Palmy. I am surprised by the large number of Palmerston north boys in this list tbh. Anyway there are some Aucklanders there which is a good thing - Although the strong CHCH and Palmy contingent show that cricket may indeed be stronger there than other cities. Very unscientific I know. Where did Ross grow up?

20-01-2013, 02:24 PM	#304 (permalink)
Hurricane International Captain Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Wellington Posts: 7,363	Andrew Alderson: Game over for test cricket - Cricket - NZ Herald News

20-01-2013, 04:09 PM	#306 (permalink)
straw man International Vice-Captain Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: l Posts: 4,928	Andrew Alderson surely NZ's best cricket journalist at present. Obviously cares about the game and follows it closely and that comes through in his writing - contrast to Richard Boock who seems to just want attention and to feel special.

23-01-2013, 04:14 AM	#310 (permalink)
straw man International Vice-Captain Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: l Posts: 4,928	I think the split captaincy could work and Taylor might accept it if Hesson wasn't the coach. Don't see any way Taylor could be captain under Hesson though.

23-01-2013, 04:21 AM	#312 (permalink)
straw man International Vice-Captain Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: l Posts: 4,928	Couldn't have accepted it with Hesson remaining as coach - would be unworkable

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