Unlucky Australia Cricketers during the golden era under Taylor/Waugh - Page 2

robelinda · 29-07-2012, 10:19 PM

Can't believe I left out Mark Higgs and Shawn Bradstreet.

uvelocity · 29-07-2012, 10:25 PM

BoyBrumby · 30-07-2012, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Spikey

hodge got everything he deserved

Always came across as both a bit of a div and massively up himself in interviews.

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Originally Posted by Debris

Michael Di Venuto, David Hussey, Brad Haddin, Andrew Symonds, Nathan Bracken, Simon Katich are a few that come to mind.

Didn't Katich score something like 4000 test runs? Pretty decent career, IMHO.

If one includes him there's also a case for Hussey sr. Has had a good run at tests now, but was 31 (IIRC) before he debuted.

Top_Cat · 30-07-2012, 01:09 AM

Yeah and Hussey wasn't unlucky not to play Tests in that era, was just not good enough. Averaging mid-30's for your state as Hussey did - in any era - shouldn't see you play Test cricket.

Definitely wouldn't put Kat in the unlucky group.

EDIT: inb4 anyone mentions his CC record. Don't bother.

stumpski · 30-07-2012, 01:34 AM

I reckon Tom Moody and Ian Harvey would have been Test regulars for many sides.

sunilreddy · 30-07-2012, 01:42 AM

Ryan Campbell in ODI'S
Slater, Langer in ODI'S

Top_Cat · 30-07-2012, 01:43 AM

Yeah, Moody a good shout. Was shoehorned into opening the batting against SL after they dropped Taylor, got a couple of shocking decisions and one Test on a really green deck in SL, therefore not good enough to be considered for the team again apparently.

Spikey · 30-07-2012, 01:46 AM

it's kinda annoying to think that (Super) Dom Thornely smashed 1000 runs in a season but no-one really thought much about it, and now players who hit half of that are bright new hopes or w/ever

What I'm saying is, Super Dom should make a shield come back

Spikey · 30-07-2012, 01:48 AM

Joe Dawes btw

Debris · 30-07-2012, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

Always came across as both a bit of a div and massively up himself in interviews.

Didn't Katich score something like 4000 test runs? Pretty decent career, IMHO.

If one includes him there's also a case for Hussey sr. Has had a good run at tests now, but was 31 (IIRC) before he debuted.

I almost included Michael Hussey in there as well. His career was affected as well but at what point is the cutoff. You could even argue cricketers like Mark Waugh and Matthew Hayden broke into the team later than normal because the side was so strong.

NUFAN · 30-07-2012, 02:56 AM

I wonder if Bichel would actually walk into the Test team now. I rate Siddle (obvs) and Hilf above him so unless you like his extra batting I doubt he would actually walk into this team.

I also question Matt Elliott being unlucky. He played over 20 Tests and got dropped deservedly, obviously the injury he sustained in the collision with Waugh didn't help but someone like Jamie Cox is seen as more unlucky by most.

morgieb · 30-07-2012, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by _Ed_

Bevan, though he was of course a staple in the ODI team, would have got more of a run in Tests. Adam Dale's another - outrageously good FC stats.

Style wouldn't have worked in tests IMO.

morgieb · 30-07-2012, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by sunilreddy

Ryan Campbell in ODI'S
Slater, Langer in ODI'S

Ryan Campbell was pretty average IMO.

Agreed with Langer, but Slater got quite a few chances and played pretty poorly in ODI's for whatever reason.

morgieb · 30-07-2012, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Debris

I almost included Michael Hussey in there as well. His career was affected as well but at what point is the cutoff. You could even argue cricketers like Mark Waugh and Matthew Hayden broke into the team later than normal because the side was so strong.

Mark Waugh didn't make his debut until 1990/91, and Australia didn't start to come good until the 89 Ashes. I dunno if he broke into the side later than normal, regardless of how good his FC stats were.

morgieb · 30-07-2012, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Monk

At my CC we have 2 sets of 5 brothers and 1 set of 3 brothers.

There is a trophy each season for the most underachieving brother of those 13 guys. "The Dean Waugh Award". It's pretty prestigious.

Now that's classic

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stumpski Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Medway valley Posts: 5,269	I reckon Tom Moody and Ian Harvey would have been Test regulars for many sides.

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Top_Cat Cricket Web: All-Time Legend Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 21,188	Yeah, Moody a good shout. Was shoehorned into opening the batting against SL after they dropped Taylor, got a couple of shocking decisions and one Test on a really green deck in SL, therefore not good enough to be considered for the team again apparently.

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Spikey Cricket Web: All-Time Legend Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: All Glory To The Nev Posts: 24,076	Joe Dawes btw

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NUFAN International Coach Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NSW Posts: 13,751	I wonder if Bichel would actually walk into the Test team now. I rate Siddle (obvs) and Hilf above him so unless you like his extra batting I doubt he would actually walk into this team. I also question Matt Elliott being unlucky. He played over 20 Tests and got dropped deservedly, obviously the injury he sustained in the collision with Waugh didn't help but someone like Jamie Cox is seen as more unlucky by most.

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