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    KNB's record suggests he should really be at 7 (if anywhere).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane View Post
    Yeah but we are trying to use the Plunket shield to develop peeps and Young is an up and comer.

    Van Wyk is already in the test team and 7 is high enough for him.
    Ideally Van Wyk should bat at five, Young at six, and Noema-Barnett at seven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane View Post
    Yeah but we are trying to use the Plunket shield to develop peeps
    The best way to develop peeps is to make them earn their stripes and play to win; not give them handouts for one reason or another. It would be absurd to bat van Wyk at seven given the success he had last season.

    Anyway, taste it Wellington. Taste Sinclair's ton. Might even be enough to get him back in the NZ CPL team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kippax View Post
    KNB's record suggests he should really be at 7 (if anywhere).
    Isn't he skipper now. So maybe that has something to do with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    The best way to develop peeps is to make them earn their stripes and play to win; not give them handouts for one reason or another. It would be absurd to bat van Wyk at seven given the success he had last season.
    I call it investing in the future. Both CD's and New Zealand. It is a good idea to have at least a couple of prospects in your team and give them a chance to contribute. Young may not even get a dig this inning.

    Anyway like others had posted if KNB had been 7 and young 6. I wouldn't be making this point.

    Getting on a soapbox for a second - for some reason, and Kruger is not one of them, the plunket shield has a number of "mind of matter' players. Who are actually quite useless technique/skill/and aptitude wise but through sheer self belief ton up against 130km bowling on a regular basis. They seem to come in to bat in premium batting spots around 5 and 6 when the opposition is tired and the ball is old and make hay every time. I don't see how what purpose we are serving by creating an environment for these players to succeed and flourish. Gareth Hopkins leads the way in this division of player and just reckon younger guys should get his spot in the batting order for the future of cricket in general.

    We've made a decision we can only afford to have 6 teams in NZ domestic cricket. To give youngsters a fair go then there has to be some selection bias in their favour.

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    C Chopper is certainly finding life to his liking in CD. All four tons in last seven innings and also as a married man, incidentally.

    Hurricane, can't agree with you champ. KVW needs to be batting as high as he can for both the sake of CD and NZ. For CD's sake, he's in their best five batsman hands down. Should be above KNB. And certainly a U20 guy who scored no runs at the World Cup (minus a minnow). Yes he's a certain pick in the Test side but he needs to become a trusted member of it and offer bigger runs where he is.

    And Astle bowling 12 overs to Johnston's 41 is a very interesting one, purely based on a scorecard. There's certainly a lot of domestic players who can't see the merit in Astle's selection

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveNZ View Post
    And Astle bowling 12 overs to Johnston's 41 is a very interesting one, purely based on a scorecard. There's certainly a lot of domestic players who can't see the merit in Astle's selection
    Derek de Boorder obviously not one of them though; probably expects him to open the batting with Guptill.

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    Wagner getting Stewart lbw first ball must have been a goodie.... video of it anyone?

    And Johnston is new to me - what does he bowl and is he any good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flametree View Post
    Wagner getting Stewart lbw first ball must have been a goodie.... video of it anyone?

    And Johnston is new to me - what does he bowl and is he any good?
    He's a young offspinner. Haven't seen him bowl so can't comment on his quality but you don't get many 22 year old specialist offies playing in the Plunket Shield, let alone taking five wicket hauls, so that alone probably says a lot.

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    I remember Johnston bowling quite well in an OD/T20 game vs South Africa earlier this year. I think he actually got Amla out as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    Derek de Boorder obviously not one of them though; probably expects him to open the batting with Guptill.
    Haha quite right. He would have taken a quiet satisfaction in his 95 from behind the stumps.

    Johnston is a decent offie, bowls flattish. If you look at the scorecard, four of his five wickets were left handers and three of those four were bowled or lbw. So I'd suggest he was bowling round and darting it to a certain degree.

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