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    Quote Originally Posted by Cricket CoachDB View Post
    As for Oram's 59 IPR: as it happens the most injury-prone player in the DB is a Kiwi. See if you can guess/spot him...he's a seamer.
    Burtt gets 99! My second choice. First choice was Sherlock, 16 FC games in nine years gets a 64, actually quite generous.

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    Good stuff, we should be able to re-name the Plunket then. And I'll go for RMF for van Beek I think.
    He was actually clocked in a game last season, 130-135.
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    Bowling ratings also give me sleepless nights at times...I'm still not sure if I have Small and Neesham quite right. I'm on a bit of a mission to get all nations pitched at the right levels relatively, but then you look at Jarvis's figures last season and wonder about the standard sometimes.
    Yep, I think everyone sees Neesham as much more of a jobber in the making than Small.

    Kyle Jarvis, Plunket Shield Wickets - YouTube Get in close and pop it on a length! Johnny Domestic will treat you well.

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    Does anyone know what the Hagley Oval bowling ends are called or its capacity? Sounds like there's some serious expansion work planned.

    Guess I'll go with the Wiki seating of 6000 for University Oval, but again-does anybody know the bowling end names?
    Germon said the ground would seat 20,000 at capacity, with 4000 temporary seats, As it stands, 4,000 I'd say.

    Just Northern End and Southern End for University Oval apparently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kippax View Post
    Kyle Jarvis, Plunket Shield Wickets - YouTube Get in close and pop it on a length! Johnny Domestic will treat you well.
    Really does remind me of McGrath. Plenty of good 'uns in there.

    Btw, does anyone know if Astle's main change up is a googly/toppie or a warne-type skidder/back spinner? Gets quite high in his action so I'd guess the former.
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    Hopefully Hawke Cup teams/players can make it into this Database. Seems a number of guys on here or around these parts play at that level and would be able to provide the inside track on a number of the teams. Not that I understand what this Database is. Is it something that could get Kim Dotcom in trouble?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeathDavisSpeed View Post
    Hopefully Hawke Cup teams/players can make it into this Database. Seems a number of guys on here or around these parts play at that level and would be able to provide the inside track on a number of the teams. Not that I understand what this Database is. Is it something that could get Kim Dotcom in trouble?
    Darn tooting, I always avoid removing ex-FC players as they are often active lower down and if can get even approximate DOB's, I'd love a non-FC competition from NZ in the game. We could even knock up a slightly-different-from-reality competition of any Hawke/Hickey Cup teams that we can get good detail on. We have non-FC modes in the game but sides from those levels haven't been added-until now: I started adding the Dutch Topklasse last night. Partly motivated by the strong Kiwi presence there-we have separate slots for Northern and Southern Hemisphere contracts, so it works well.

    If you look at the bottom table of this link, the top of the 2nd division batting averages make interesting reading from a NZ perspective too: KNCB - Hoofdklasse 2012 | Competitie

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    As for "this database"-it's the official database for the PC game Cricket Coach 2012. Me and another bloke have rated everyone from NZ, Eng, India (they took me almost 6 mths alone!), Australia, Zimbabwe and all of the Associates. Work is still ongoing on the other Test nations.

    The game doesn't get the attention it deserves compared to ICC, but eventually we intend to evolve it into the Football Manager of Cricket Games. Me and the other guy work entirely for free and the sheer geekiness of it. We love cricket and think we have the best commercially released DB ever created. The more people can help us expand it, the better, and eventually it will be a much better engine than ICC (it isn't that far off IMO!). What maybe holds us back is that the programmer is entirely independent and self funded, and can only spare a certain amount of his year on the game. But we keep beavering away perfecting the DB, as the games creator is a top bloke and we know that eventually the game will be every bit as intricate and realistic as the DB.


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    A huge "thank you" to everyone who has posted links and info above, it really is all incredibly helpful in fleshing things out. Reckon I'll go with FM rather than MF for van Beek, then.

    Apologies for hijacking the thread a bit!


    Love the Jarvis footage-is that Cleaver with the slightly camp over-excited celebrations each wicket?


    As for Sherlock, it's hard to tell with his injury record, but...does anyone know if he's still active at non-FC level? Seeing as Kippax thinks I've been kind, I'll up his IPR to 90-ish.
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    That's the little leprechaun who currently has the NZ gloves jumping for joy in the first minute or so.

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    Sodhi's moved from Auckland to ND, Hira to Canterbury, Tuffey retired, not sure if the database aims to be fluid like that rather than taking a snapshot of everyone on a given date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cricket CoachDB View Post
    Darn tooting, I always avoid removing ex-FC players as they are often active lower down and if can get even approximate DOB's, I'd love a non-FC competition from NZ in the game. We could even knock up a slightly-different-from-reality competition of any Hawke/Hickey Cup teams that we can get good detail on. We have non-FC modes in the game but sides from those levels haven't been added-until now: I started adding the Dutch Topklasse last night. Partly motivated by the strong Kiwi presence there-we have separate slots for Northern and Southern Hemisphere contracts, so it works well.
    Cricket Wellington have a very nice stats module on their website for all levels of Club Cricket, but you could certainly easily get the information about general performance levels in Club Cricket, at least in our region.

    Then on CricketWeb, I think there are guys who've played for Hamilton, Marlborough and North Otago at Hawke Cup level in recent years.

    Ewan Chatfield's still playing Club Cricket - so whack him in the database, aye?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kippax View Post
    That's the little leprechaun who currently has the NZ gloves jumping for joy in the first minute or so.



    Sodhi's moved from Auckland to ND, Hira to Canterbury, Tuffey retired, not sure if the database aims to be fluid like that rather than taking a snapshot of everyone on a given date.
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    Cheers, I'd got Tuffey and Sodhi but had missed Hira. Funny little short-term specialist that he appears to be. I suppose the intention is that he compliments the more FC-suited Astle?


    We do take snapshots at certain points, but I'm currently between them. We have optional starts of April or October, so I won't be updating English rosters until we can play next season (so NH in the DB is effectively the season just gone). But I'm updating the SH sides now to reflect what's coming this season: it's very much a "live" DB everywhere bar England and Holland.


    I'd assumed that it was the enthusiastic youngster jumping for joy behind the stumps at the start, followed by the sober barely-reacting-at-all old-pro at the end: turns out they're the other way around! Guess you need a bit of experience to have the confidence to celebrate like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeathDavisSpeed View Post
    Cricket Wellington have a very nice stats module on their website for all levels of Club Cricket, but you could certainly easily get the information about general performance levels in Club Cricket, at least in our region.

    Then on CricketWeb, I think there are guys who've played for Hamilton, Marlborough and North Otago at Hawke Cup level in recent years.

    Ewan Chatfield's still playing Club Cricket - so whack him in the database, aye?
    Yes this on Wellington is great: Wellington Cricket- Draws/Results


    Ideally I'd have something like that for every region as FC and Provincial A doesn't always give you enough data to get the full picture on emerging players (and old lags, for that matter). Plus it often lets you know a lot about the batting merits of people who are lower order or tail-end at FC level. Seeing as some players at club level are also playing in Holland, its even more handy for me.

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    Here's a challenge: can anybody help me out with bowling/batting styles, date of birth and any kind of other info on these two Auckland Provincial A's players?

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    Can't see much stopping him either. Ryder will most likely be back by then as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cricket CoachDB View Post
    Here's a challenge: can anybody help me out with bowling/batting styles, date of birth and any kind of other info on these two Auckland Provincial A's players?

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    Cheers for that otagoman and SteveNZ, brilliant stuff



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