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    arnel should not be selected ahead of wagner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by straw man View Post
    I think we need to implement the 'Arnel test', similar to the 'Sinclair test' from a while ago. If a domestic bowler is not able to outperform Arnel this domestic season then they shouldn't be considered for the NZ side. Occasional exceptions for promising bowlers such as Doug Bracewell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by straw man View Post
    I think we need to implement the 'Arnel test', similar to the 'Sinclair test' from a while ago. If a domestic bowler is not able to outperform Arnel this domestic season then they shouldn't be considered for the NZ side. Occasional exceptions for promising bowlers such as Doug Bracewell.
    Is the Sinclair test the same as the Arnel test, just with batting performances instead? If so, not many batsmen in New Zealand will be eligible for the test team. We'd be using that 'promising' excuse most of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike5181 View Post
    Is the Sinclair test the same as the Arnel test, just with batting performances instead? If so, not many batsmen in New Zealand will be eligible for the test team. We'd be using that 'promising' excuse most of the time.
    Yeah, none of McCullum, Taylor or Ryder would've met the Sinclair test when they came into the team. Williamson probably just about did though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane View Post
    arnel should not be selected ahead of wagner.
    I can understand one of Arnel/McKay, but both? We should be using this game as an opportunity to test some of our younger bowlers.

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    Looks like everyone besides Arnel is bowling turds.

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    Didn't PEWs have some ranking system that essentially penalised Sinclair's average for the number of times he'd failed at international level? If a domestic player still couldn't beat that adjusted-down average then they weren't up to it.

    Anyway, less about numbers, it's more of a guideline - when any of us think of someone who has been tried and failed at international level (say How, McKay, Flynn, even Franklin), the bar they must reach in domestic cricket to be considered again for NZ becomes that much higher. Can't merely have a good season and get back in - you need to absolutely dominate.

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    Apparently there will be a renewed focus on 'A' tours.

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    Worker seems Tim MacIntosh-like with his start of innings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immenso View Post
    ... Also I would have thought giving T Boult a game in one of these matches would have been a decent build up for him to the tests in a month v Sri Lanka.
    see this Stuff story

    ... Of those in contention for the [Sri Lanka] tour but not playing in Lincoln or returning from the World T20 in Sri Lanka, [...] left-arm speedster Trent Boult is managing a minor groin injury. However, Boult is expected to be fit for selection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by straw man View Post
    Apparently there will be a renewed focus on 'A' tours.
    Interesting quote in this story: "Littlejohn said attacking left-arm quick Neil Wagner was left out of the playing XI yesterday, partly to see how the remaining pace bowlers fared without a spearhead." Fair enough comment for Arnel, but this shows how he rates Andy McKay ...

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    Also, Flynn has been assured of his place in the Sri Lankan Tests.

    Franklin vs. Jeets it is then, Athlai and Kippax obvs wanted Franky and Jeets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vandem View Post
    Interesting quote in this story: "Littlejohn said attacking left-arm quick Neil Wagner was left out of the playing XI yesterday, partly to see how the remaining pace bowlers fared without a spearhead." Fair enough comment for Arnel, but this shows how he rates Andy McKay ...
    This still continues to **** me that someone with nil cricketing background gets to have an opinion.

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    Rutherford 95* at the moment, his last four first class games before this one

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