*Official* New Zealand Domestic Cricket Season 2012/2013

[ohnoitsyou]

Originally Posted by Flem274*

Nah, has improved slightly imo. Well the ceilings of the players anyway. Not many 120kph dibbly dobblies around ripping through teams.

Well McCone took wickets today, but he isn't a regular in the wickets so meh.

Ellis comes to mind, but that doesn't really count seeing he has an illegal action

[Bahnz]

Originally Posted by HeathDavisSpeed

Pretty good declaration that.

Tail enders saving Auckland too.

Anyone else concerned that NZ Domestic is turning into a joke?

Just the batting. There are hardly any top order players in the country with the technique to deal with the new ball.

[Flem274*]

Nah I think the batting is the same as it was in the last 5 years or so, it's just now the bowlers are 140kph on fair pitches* and opposed to 120kph on roads and most can't cope.

So rather than appearing to have heaps of batting depth, we are being told the truth. Hopefully the bump in bowling talent will see the batsmen adjust, but that will take some time.

*Colin Munro Park excepted.

[HeathDavisSpeed]

There's something wrong, and it's not good news for New Zealand cricket when the centuries are being scored by guys deploying brute force and ignorance. If we went by Domestic results, we'd be batting with a team of #8s with Jesse Ryder thrown in. Exceptional strike rate guaranteed, but would be ripped apart by a team of international bowlers.

Why is it that these 140km/h pacers can take top order wickets but not lower order wickets? This isn't a flash in the pan thing, it's the story of the season.

[Flem274*]

Yeah I dunno. Inexperience maybe? There's some pretty youthful attacks out there I guess.

Just had a look at the most runs chart, and of the 10 guys with over 300 runs and averaging 50+, 9 are top six batsmen. A lot of them are names we've seen before though.

Munro
Redmond
Carlchopa
Ryder
Papps
Fulton
Yovich
Anderson
Craigchopa

With Andrew being the sneaky lower order hero in there, and Tastle, Brownlie and Will Young just outside it.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...ype=tournament

edit: looking at that list brings it home to me just how relatively easy it is to have awesome stats at the halfway mark of the season. One big innings and some okay scores sees you up there.

[Mike5181]

That bad thing about our first-class bowlers atm is that most of the promising ones are seriously injury-prone. Milne, Small, Wheeler, Henry, Bennett etc all miss more games than they play. When they are all out, the standard of our bowling attacks isn't great.

[Bahnz]

Yep, and it's been a huge problem for CD in particular the last three years running. Really makes me wonder about the quality of their medical staff and practice facilities.

On the other hand, u23 fast bowlers are always more vulnerable to breaking down than anyone else.

[Mike5181]

Originally Posted by Flem274*

Yeah I dunno. Inexperience maybe? There's some pretty youthful attacks out there I guess.

Just had a look at the most runs chart, and of the 10 guys with over 300 runs and averaging 50+, 9 are top six batsmen. A lot of them are names we've seen before though.

Munro
Redmond
Carlchopa
Ryder
Papps
Fulton
Yovich
Anderson
Craigchopa

With Andrew being the sneaky lower order hero in there, and Tastle, Brownlie and Will Young just outside it.

Cricket Records | Records | Plunket Shield, 2012/13 | Most runs | ESPN Cricinfo

edit: looking at that list brings it home to me just how relatively easy it is to have awesome stats at the halfway mark of the season. One big innings and some okay scores sees you up there.

You'd have to say, with the exception of Will Young, there's not much to be excited about batting-wise.

[Bahnz]

Originally Posted by Mike5181

You'd have to say, with the exception of Will Young, there's not much to be excited about batting-wise.

**** off, Yovich is the next Bradman.

[Spikey]

can't believe southee made 156 and only 36 of them were sixes

[Flem274*]

@ mike: Yeah I only really think Brownlie, Carlchopa, Anderson and Young have it in them to make the step up, and they are far from the finished article atm.

Haven't seen enough of Craigchopa to comment obvz.

It's interesting looking at the most runs/wickets because on our diet of Kippax vids and our own browsing of the highlights site, I never would have picked some of the guys who have the best stats to have the best stats.

[HeathDavisSpeed]

I mean Gareth Andrew has been making hay. It's sad. And that's having faced plenty of bowling from NZ internationals - Martin & Mills, Arnel & Aldridge. ND only got him out with a run out FFS.

[M0rphin3]

OMG Southee gunning it.

[HeathDavisSpeed]

Originally Posted by Bahnz

**** off, Yovich is the next Bradman.

Saw Joey this morning coming out ND's hotel on my way up The Terrace. Should have taken the opportunity to nobble Southee in hindsight.

[Bahnz]

Originally Posted by HeathDavisSpeed

I mean Gareth Andrew has been making hay. It's sad. And that's having faced plenty of bowling from NZ internationals - Martin & Mills, Arnel & Aldridge. ND only got him out with a run out FFS.

Use him to replace Taylor imo.