Why do the selectors pick new players for the wrong format?

Agent Nationaux · 13-07-2012, 09:41 AM

It's so frustrating, especially in Pakistan cricket. Our selectors are supposed to be ex-players and yet they don't realise when a certain player has a good record in one particular format and is rubbish in the other. A good recent example is the quick bowler Rahat Ali. The guy is averaging pretty low in First Class cricket and averages high in List A, yet the selectors pick him for ODI.

benchmark00 · 13-07-2012, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent Nationaux

It's so frustrating, especially in Pakistan cricket. Our selectors are supposed to be ex-players and yet they don't realise when a certain player has a good record in one particular format and is rubbish in the other. A good recent example is the quick bowler Rahat Ali. The guy is averaging pretty low in First Class cricket and averages high in List A, yet the selectors pick him for ODI.

It's because it's a chance to introduce the players to international opposition and get them experience.

You won't see a guy who's more suited to ODI/T20 cricket getting blooded through test matches because they're the real thing.

Cabinet96 · 13-07-2012, 09:54 AM

Yeah what Benchy said. If they're thinking about selecting a player for tests, they'll often give them a go in ODI's, which gives them a good indication of whether they're good enough for international cricket in terms of the standard of opposition and it also lets the know whether a player has the temperament for the big stage.

I don't necessarily agree with them doing it, but it's certainly understandable.

Jacknife · 13-07-2012, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by benchmark00

It's because it's a chance to introduce the players to international opposition and get them experience.

You won't see a guy who's more suited to ODI/T20 cricket getting blooded through test matches because they're the real thing.

This.

Monk · 13-07-2012, 05:13 PM

Also, let's the team see if they fit in with the team environment. Plenty of talented blokes have missed out on substantial international careers when they had the talent, but didn't fit in with the boys club because of their personality/attitude.

Dan · 13-07-2012, 05:54 PM

At this point in the ODI cycle, building for a World Cup isn't a huge priority, so ODIs become the perfect medium to trial players and get them experience at an international level.

For example, if Umar Gul goes down with injury, would you rather Rahat Ali come in with zero international experience, or with 5 or 10 ODIs behind him?

morgieb · 13-07-2012, 07:30 PM

Trialing for experience. In many cases I think it's the wrong move though.

Mike5181 · 13-07-2012, 07:37 PM

We used Neil Broom as a finisher in ODIs which really annoyed me. He doesn't have a terrible List A record but the longer format is where he's best suited.

wellAlbidarned · 13-07-2012, 07:43 PM

It's case of ****ing terrible logic which somehow manages to sound sensible.

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Cabinet96 International Vice-Captain Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: London, England Posts: 4,122	Yeah what Benchy said. If they're thinking about selecting a player for tests, they'll often give them a go in ODI's, which gives them a good indication of whether they're good enough for international cricket in terms of the standard of opposition and it also lets the know whether a player has the temperament for the big stage. I don't necessarily agree with them doing it, but it's certainly understandable. Last edited by Cabinet96; 13-07-2012 at 09:57 AM.

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morgieb Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Paradise City Posts: 8,935	Trialing for experience. In many cases I think it's the wrong move though. __________________ 4-0 RIP Craig Walsh (Craig) 1985-2012 Proudly supporting the #2 cricketer of all time.

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wellAlbidarned International Captain Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: spaghetti Posts: 5,005	It's case of **ing terrible logic which somehow manages to sound sensible. __________________ "MTV isn't really my cup of tea... mostly because I hate huge pieces of ** in my tea." - Aziz Ansari

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Monk International Debutant Join Date: May 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 2,578	Also, let's the team see if they fit in with the team environment. Plenty of talented blokes have missed out on substantial international careers when they had the talent, but didn't fit in with the boys club because of their personality/attitude.

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Dan Global Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,101	At this point in the ODI cycle, building for a World Cup isn't a huge priority, so ODIs become the perfect medium to trial players and get them experience at an international level. For example, if Umar Gul goes down with injury, would you rather Rahat Ali come in with zero international experience, or with 5 or 10 ODIs behind him?

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Mike5181 International Regular Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: City of Sails Posts: 3,405	We used Neil Broom as a finisher in ODIs which really annoyed me. He doesn't have a terrible List A record but the longer format is where he's best suited.

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