I always thought that there were three tiers to rank a gun player. It's still subjective but most people have general feelings towards a player's skill - by that I mean no one thinks Inzy is a **** batsman - but things might differ somewhat between people. IMO it comes down to the 'impact' of a player (basically the 'he was a god' factor. For example...
Gold tier - Wally Hammond, Javed Miandad
Silver tier - Kevin Pietersen, Inzamam Ul-Haq
Bronze tier - Colin Cowdrey, Saeed Anwar
Others - Anyone who you don't feel is worthy of being mentioned in conversations about their nation's best ever XI
An absolute minimum is that you be the best at your discipline when you played. For me, the word is thrown around too much. I struggle to actually find enough players I would consider an ATG to make an XI
Did the player make the World XI squad on Mega Drive's Brian Lara Cricket? If not, he's struggling to be an ATG for my money.
But realistically I just consider top Cricketers in each era as ATG's unless the era was completely weak if that could ever happen. ATG can be like a performance hall of fame, it doesn't have to be just the best XI or so players ever.
Overall average is a **** way to determine ATG, performances against the strong countries is extremely important for me.
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So top (Gold) tier Batsmen:
Hobbs, Hutton, Gavaskar, Sutcliffe, Trumper, B. Richards, Bradman, Headley, Hammond, Ponting, Richards, Tendulkar, Sobers, G. Chappell, Lara, Pollock, Kallis, Weekes, Border, Miandad, Dravid
Marshall, Warne, Mcgrath, Lillee, Ambrose, Trueman, Hadlee, Holding, Lindwall, O'Reilly, Laker, Imran, Akran, Younis, Barnes, Donald, Steyn, Miller, Garner.
Gilchrist, Knott, Ames, Botham.
Looks about right?
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Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2
Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4
Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Waite+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2
Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3
Apart from Steyn, yeah.
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I would probably say that he'd have to have a reasonable chance of making an all decade XI at the very least.
Alan Davidson, Shaun Pollock, Harold Larwood, Clarrie Grimmett, Hedley Verity, Richie Benaud and Mike Procter are certain gold tiers too
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