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    Quote Originally Posted by watson View Post
    Poor Denis. Sounds like he needs a Bex and good lie down.
    Have planned a fully air conditioned room with all the facilities in it
    Originally Spoken by Brendon McCullum
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    Andy with a great side there
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyZaltzHair View Post
    Happy to get Denis Lindsay the man in crisis

    1. Graham Gooch
    2. Arthur Morris
    3. Viv Richards
    4. Jacques Kallis
    5. Neil Harvey
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    7. Denis Lindsay+
    8. Wilfred Rhodes
    9. Peter Pollock
    10. Fazal Mahmood
    11. Joel Garner
    Andy, I suppose Pollock and Garner will open the bowling with the new ball (?)

    Afterwards Rhodes or Mahmood will then tie down one end while the 2 pacemen plus Kallis rotate the bowling (?)
    Last edited by watson; 14-08-2012 at 05:22 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by watson View Post
    Andy, I suppose Pollock and Garner will open the bowling with the new ball (?)

    Afterwards Rhodes or Mahmood will then tie down one end while the 2 pacemen plus Kallis rotate the bowling (?)
    Exactly the plan


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    I realised it would be quite unfair not to contest them

    I can only process one player for you per sequence, so you'll need to give me another two picks - one for R10 and one for R11 which will start as soon as Blakus gets back to me!
    Pardon?

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    You gave me three picks which I decided had to be 'contested' by running them with everyone else's selections (I know I said I'd give you the first pick automatically, but after much consideration I realised that is very unfair for the other 11 players). Hanif got voodooed, which was your first - you'll most likely get your second here, then in R11 you'll go for the third player you left me with, so if you get him and your second, picks 8/9 will be filled. Then you'd still need players to run for for R10/11

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    You gave me three picks which I decided had to be 'contested' by running them with everyone else's selections (I know I said I'd give you the first pick automatically, but after much consideration I realised that is very unfair for the other 11 players). Hanif got voodooed, which was your first - you'll most likely get your second here, then in R11 you'll go for the third player you left me with, so if you get him and your second, picks 8/9 will be filled. Then you'd still need players to run for for R10/11
    Sounds logical and reasonable to me.

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    Really great team AZH. Well done.
    Aus. XI
    Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2


    W.I. XI
    Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4

    S.A. XI
    Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Cameron+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2

    Eng. XI
    Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    You gave me three picks which I decided had to be 'contested' by running them with everyone else's selections (I know I said I'd give you the first pick automatically, but after much consideration I realised that is very unfair for the other 11 players). Hanif got voodooed, which was your first - you'll most likely get your second here, then in R11 you'll go for the third player you left me with, so if you get him and your second, picks 8/9 will be filled. Then you'd still need players to run for for R10/11
    Consistency. Nice. Besides, Hanif was contested, no issue. Neither of my others were. Why wasn't I allowed them? Not only have I had to pick them from a reduced player pool but they have to pass more than once? Why?

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    Basically, if I understand it. Youre making me pick my round 8 player in round 10 and round 9 in round 11. Which is in no way fair. I missed a few selections and should be entitled to make them as soon as possible, such is the case in any other draft in order to catch up. I effectively made three round 10 picks. 2 of which passed. Yet I'm not allowed them? Makes no sense.

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    Agree with Marcuss here.

    There is no way that the following simplified case helps the player

    Pass

    2x picks

    Ex say we're using the following rankings in a 2 person draft (please don't argue on the actual rankings it's just easier than using player a / b /c) for batsman

    1 DG Bradman
    2 SR Tendulkar
    3 GS Sobers
    4 JB Hobbs

    And then bowlers

    1 M Muralitharan
    2 Sir RJ Hadlee
    3 SF Barnes
    4 WJ O'Reilly



    First round Marcuss t/os

    So I get a free Bradman. Sure I now can't block say Hadlee & Murali... However this isn't the point, I've already blocked one pick by actually getting the player (Bradman), obviously marcuss gets some information on whats going to be picked... however this is in no way as valuable as picking first!... If anyone thinks it is, I'll take one for the team and email you picks so you can avoid them.
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    The big problem with this is that when everyone picks together, it is a fair competition for all because you don't know if your player will be taken and therefore may need to pick differently to ensure you get good players. If you have the privilege of making 'uninhibited' selections (despite making them later than others) then you can easily get any player still available without being challenged for him.

    Since there's always selections being made, if you were to make one of these 'invincible' selections whilst someone else selected him at the same time, it would be unfair to knock back the other player and tell them to go pick someone else - the whole concept of the draft is to remove players from the draft pool.

    You can get a player in R11, then in R11.2 etc. because they are considered rounds, so it'd not that much of a drawback. In running the draft, I have to make sure it's fair for the majority of people, I can't completely cater for one person just because they timed out (even if it would make things easier for me). 24-hour minimum time periods are double that of a normal draft so it's not like the time constraints are impossible, everyone else has been managing in 6-12 hours easily
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    Round 11 is here. I would like everyone to note that Archie Jackson was taken by Marcuss, but it was recorded in the R8 category.

    R1
    AndyZaltzHair: Viv Richards
    Eds: Shane Warne
    watson: Sydney Barnes
    kingkallis: Dennis Lillee
    Monk: Keith Miller
    Blakus: Adam Gilchrist
    Himannv: Curtly Ambrose
    Cevno/Marcuss: Imran Khan
    kyear2: Malcolm Marshall
    MrPrez: Wally Hammond
    Valer: Muttiah Muralitharan

    R2
    Jager: Mike Procter
    Eds: Glenn McGrath
    AndyZaltzHair: Jacques Kallis
    Valer: Andy Flower
    Blakus: Alan Davidson
    watson: Ray Lindwall
    kingkallis: Waqar Younis
    MrPrez: Sachin Tendulkar
    kyear2: Barry Richards
    Monk: Brian Lara
    Cevno/Marcuss: Fred Trueman
    Himannv: Allan Donald

    R3
    Jager: Dale Steyn
    kyear2: Jim Laker
    Eds: Graeme Pollock
    Monk: John Snow
    watson: Charlie Macartney
    Valer: Courtney Walsh
    kingkallis: Len Hutton
    Himannv: Greg Chappell
    Blakus: Ian Botham
    AndyZaltzHair: Joel Garner
    Cevno/Marcuss: Herbert Sutcliffe
    MrPrez: Victor Trumper

    R4
    Jager: Rahul Dravid
    Eds: Clyde Walcott
    Valer: Charlie Turner
    kyear2: Ricky Ponting
    kingkallis: Everton Weekes
    AndyZaltzHair: Neil Harvey
    Monk: Sunil Gavaskar
    MrPrez: Jeff Thomson
    watson: Bill Lawry
    Himannv: Frank Tyson
    Cevno/Marcuss: Steve Waugh
    Blakus: Richie Benaud

    R5
    Jager: Dudley Nourse
    watson: Neil Adcock
    kingkallis: Matthew Hayden
    Valer: Javed Miandad
    Monk: Kapil Dev
    AndyZaltzHair: Arthur Morris
    kyear2: Les Ames
    Blakus: Denis Compton
    Eds: WG Grace
    Himannv: Ken Barrington
    MrPrez: Fred Spofforth
    Cevno/Marcuss: Alan Knott

    R6
    Jager: Stan McCabe
    kyear2: Ian Bishop
    AndyZaltzHair: Graham Gooch
    Valer: Bruce Mitchell
    Blakus: Wes Hall
    MrPrez: Anil Kumble
    Monk: Derek Underwood
    watson: Bob Simpson
    Himannv: Geoff Boycott
    kingkallis: Hedley Verity
    Cevno/Marcuss: Clive Lloyd
    Eds: Colin Croft

    R7
    Jager: Shane Bond
    Eds: Shivnarine Chanderpaul
    MrPrez: Vijay Hazare
    Himannv: Eddie Paynter
    watson: Bill Ponsford
    AndyZaltzHair: Peter Pollock
    kingkallis: Doug Walters
    Valer: George Lohmann
    Blakus: Virender Sehwag
    kyear2: Alec Bedser
    Monk: Ian Chappell
    Cevno/Marcuss: Hugh Tayfield

    R8
    Jager: Graeme Smith
    kingkallis: Trevor Goddard
    watson: John Waite
    Himannv: Hugh Trumble
    AndyZaltzHair: Fazal Mahmood
    Eds: Maurice Tate
    Valer: Mahela Jayawardene
    kyear2: Lindsay Hassett
    Marcuss: Archie Jackson
    Monk: Frank Woolley
    Blakus: Clem Hill
    MrPrez: Ian Healy

    R9
    Jager: Matt Prior
    Eds: Martin Crowe
    AndyZaltzHair: Wilfred Rhodes
    watson: Bill Johnston
    MrPrez: Bill Woodfull
    Blakus: Brian Statham
    kyear2: Tony Greig
    Monk: Michael Clarke
    Valer: Eddie Barlow
    kingkallis: Andrew Flintoff
    Himannv: Douglas Jardine
    Marcuss: -

    R10
    Jager: Mohammad Yousuf
    Valer: Herbie Taylor
    watson: Maurice Leyland
    Eds: Desmond Haynes
    AndyZaltzHair: Denis Lindsay
    kingkallis: Jeffrey Dujon
    Cevno/Marcuss: -
    Monk: Roy Fredericks
    Blakus: Stanley Jackson
    kyear2: Sid Barnes
    Himannv: Conrad Hunte
    MrPrez: Herschelle Gibbs

    Voodoo: Garfield Sobers, Richard Hadlee, Donald Bradman, Bill O’Reilly, Wasim Akram, Clarrie Grimmett, George Headley, Shaun Pollock, Michael Holding, Andy Roberts, Harold Larwood, Allan Border, Frank Worrell, Aubrey Faulkner, Kumar Sangakkara, Rohan Kanhai, Gordon Greenidge, Peter May, Kevin Pietersen, Ted Dexter, Kumar Ranjitsinhji, Inzamam Ul-Haq, Vijay Merchant, AB de Villiers, Hanif Mohammad
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    1.Virender Sehwag(8)
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    3.Clem Hill
    4.Denis Compton(7)
    5.Stanley Jackson(6)
    6.Ian Botham(5)
    7.Adam Gilchrist+
    8.Richie Benaud*(4)
    9.Alan Davidson(1)
    10.Wes Hall(2)
    11.Brian Statham(3)

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    1. WG Grace
    2. Desmond Haynes
    3. Clyde Walcott
    4. Graeme Pollock
    5. Martin Crowe
    6. Shivnarine Chanderpaul
    7. -
    8. Maurice Tate
    9. Shane Warne
    10. Colin Croft
    11. Glenn McGrath
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