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[Valer]

Jager -- Possibly a scorecard error

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15 January 1938: South Australia played a Sheffield Shield match v New South Wales in Sydney. Because South Australia's regular wicket-keeper had a broken finger Bradman kept wickets, stumping one & taking 3 catches

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[Jager]

I've read that before I think - I wasn't doubting you by the way, I just thought it was strange!

 

[Valer]

I've read that before I think - I wasn't doubting you by the way, I just thought it was strange!

You've likely got more idea than me. I just googled bradman + wicketkeeping and this poped up.

My comment was more as a possible explaination.

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

Sent for Round 12

 

[Jager]

Since this is the last round, I am going to give extra time to the people who haven't made selections

We need to let the reserve league catch up, so it's better we do the waiting game now instead of later when we want to start season 3

Hope you're all having good weekends!

 

[Jager]

10/12.

 

[Jarquis]

Will do soon

 

[Jager]

Colin Bland and Jack Gregory are (hopefully) our last entrants into the world of voodoo. Time for R12.2!

R1
AndyZaltzHair: Viv Richards
Eds: Shane Warne
watson: Sydney Barnes
kingkallis: Dennis Lillee
Monk: Keith Miller
Blakus: Adam Gilchrist
Himannv: Curtly Ambrose
Cevno/Marcuss: Imran Khan
kyear2: Malcolm Marshall
MrPrez: Wally Hammond
Valer: Muttiah Muralitharan

R2
Jager: Mike Procter
Eds: Glenn McGrath
AndyZaltzHair: Jacques Kallis
Valer: Andy Flower
Blakus: Alan Davidson
watson: Ray Lindwall
kingkallis: Waqar Younis
MrPrez: Sachin Tendulkar
kyear2: Barry Richards
Monk: Brian Lara
Cevno/Marcuss: Fred Trueman
Himannv: Allan Donald

R3
Jager: Dale Steyn
kyear2: Jim Laker
Eds: Graeme Pollock
Monk: John Snow
watson: Charlie Macartney
Valer: Courtney Walsh
kingkallis: Len Hutton
Himannv: Greg Chappell
Blakus: Ian Botham
AndyZaltzHair: Joel Garner
Cevno/Marcuss: Herbert Sutcliffe
MrPrez: Victor Trumper

R4
Jager: Rahul Dravid
Eds: Clyde Walcott
Valer: Charlie Turner
kyear2: Ricky Ponting
kingkallis: Everton Weekes
AndyZaltzHair: Neil Harvey
Monk: Sunil Gavaskar
MrPrez: Jeff Thomson
watson: Bill Lawry
Himannv: Frank Tyson
Cevno/Marcuss: Steve Waugh
Blakus: Richie Benaud

R5
Jager: Dudley Nourse
watson: Neil Adcock
kingkallis: Matthew Hayden
Valer: Javed Miandad
Monk: Kapil Dev
AndyZaltzHair: Arthur Morris
kyear2: Les Ames
Blakus: Denis Compton
Eds: WG Grace
Himannv: Ken Barrington
MrPrez: Fred Spofforth
Cevno/Marcuss: Alan Knott

R6
Jager: Stan McCabe
kyear2: Ian Bishop
AndyZaltzHair: Graham Gooch
Valer: Bruce Mitchell
Blakus: Wes Hall
MrPrez: Anil Kumble
Monk: Derek Underwood
watson: Bob Simpson
Himannv: Geoff Boycott
kingkallis: Hedley Verity
Cevno/Marcuss: Clive Lloyd
Eds: Colin Croft

R7
Jager: Shane Bond
Eds: Shivnarine Chanderpaul
MrPrez: Vijay Hazare
Himannv: Eddie Paynter
watson: Bill Ponsford
AndyZaltzHair: Peter Pollock
kingkallis: Doug Walters
Valer: George Lohmann
Blakus: Virender Sehwag
kyear2: Alec Bedser
Monk: Ian Chappell
Cevno/Marcuss: Hugh Tayfield

R8
Jager: Graeme Smith
kingkallis: Trevor Goddard
watson: John Waite
Himannv: Hugh Trumble
AndyZaltzHair: Fazal Mahmood
Eds: Maurice Tate
Valer: Mahela Jayawardene
kyear2: Lindsay Hassett
Marcuss: Archie Jackson
Monk: Frank Woolley
Blakus: Clem Hill
MrPrez: Ian Healy

R9
Jager: Matt Prior
Eds: Martin Crowe
AndyZaltzHair: Wilfred Rhodes
watson: Bill Johnston
MrPrez: Bill Woodfull
Blakus: Brian Statham
kyear2: Tony Greig
Monk: Michael Clarke
Valer: Eddie Barlow
kingkallis: Andrew Flintoff
Himannv: Douglas Jardine
Cevno/Marcuss: Bob Willis

R10
Jager: Mohammad Yousuf
Valer: Herbie Taylor
watson: Maurice Leyland
Eds: Desmond Haynes
AndyZaltzHair: Denis Lindsay
kingkallis: Jeffrey Dujon
Cevno/Marcuss: Justin Langer
Monk: Roy Fredericks
Blakus: Stanley Jackson
kyear2: Sid Barnes
Himannv: Conrad Hunte
MrPrez: Herschelle Gibbs

R11
Jager: Mark Waugh
Eds: Zaheer Abbas
Cevno/Marcuss: Warwick Armstrong
AndyZaltzHair: Michael Hussey
Himannv: Don Tallon
watson: Patsy Hendren
MrPrez: Jack Cowie
kingkallis: Hashim Amla
Valer: Mohammad Azharuddin
Monk: Farohk Engineer
kyear2: Seymour Nurse
Blakus: Michael Slater

Jager: Johnny Wardle
Eds: Alec Stewart
watson: Peter Heine
Valer: Johnny Briggs
kyear2: Mark Taylor
Monk: -
Himannv: -
AndyZaltzHair: -
Blakus: Monty Noble
kingkallis: -
MrPrez: Damien Martyn
Cevno/Marcuss: Mushtaq Mohammad

Voodoo: Garfield Sobers, Richard Hadlee, Donald Bradman, Bill O’Reilly, Wasim Akram, Clarrie Grimmett, George Headley, Shaun Pollock, Michael Holding, Andy Roberts, Harold Larwood, Allan Border, Frank Worrell, Aubrey Faulkner, Kumar Sangakkara, Rohan Kanhai, Gordon Greenidge, Peter May, Kevin Pietersen, Ted Dexter, Kumar Ranjitsinhji, Inzamam Ul-Haq, Vijay Merchant, AB de Villiers, Hanif Mohammad, David Gower, Godfrey Evans, Richie Richardson, VVS Laxman, Colin Cowdrey, Jack Gregory, Colin Bland

 

[Red]

Sent...

 

[watson]

Half tempted to play Heine and Adcock after reading Martin Chandlers essay;

Cricket Web - Features: The Dutchman and the Avalanche

As to Heine the man Laker wrote He was a fearsome figure, his black hair straggling over his eyes and a great red streak across the front of his shirt, on which he viciously polished the ball. Years later Graveney commented I was never sure what was his main interest in life - hitting the stumps or knocking batsman over ... he kept coming at you from a short length as if he were trying to bully you into error.

There are, inevitably, some famous and well-worn stories. In 1956/57 Heine felled England opener Peter Richardson with a bouncer and glared at him as he lay on the wicket and snarled Get up - I want to knock you down again. By way of further confirmation of his character Laker commented ...his attitude to the job was simple. He bowled at the batsman as often as he bowled at the wicket. Although Bailey himself made no complaint of the incident Laker would also tell a story about an animated Heine warning that most obdurate of all-rounders, I want to hit you, Bailey ..... I want to hit you over the heart. Why didn't Bailey complain? He was as hard as nails of course and, at the time, he was taking guard a yard outside his crease in order to disrupt Heine's length - I would think he was far too busy taking pleasure in having succeeded in his ploy than worrying about the occasional threat.

But if Heine was the bogeyman Adcock lost little or nothing in comparison. South African journalist Charles Fortune said of him Adcock in action is the very picture of what a fast bowler should be. His entire action is beautiful to behold and his pace a shade hotter than that of his contemporaries. From the perspective of an England batsman Graveney wrote; Somebody remarked once that arm bowlers could not be really fast. Well, he (Adcock) was as near to being an arm bowler as anyone I have ever seen, and he was decidedly quick. Adcock's teammate and sometime captain Jackie McGlew had this to say in his autobiography; Adcock I must rate, technically, as the finest new-ball bowler produced in South Africa during my career. He had the priceless asset of extracting pace and disconcerting lift from the most lifeless of pitches........

There have been some fine pairs of opening bowlers for South Africa since the 1950s. The next pair, sadly unfulfilled, were Pollock and Procter, and their natural successors, Procter and Van der Bijl, never played so much as a single Test. Since readmission we have seen Donald and De Villiers, Pollock and Ntini, and Steyn and Morkel, but none have quite the same ring as Heine and Adcock nor, in my view anyway, have any of them been quite as intimidating.

 

[Jager]

Congrats all, the draft is finished! I will post a poll once all of our final lineups are confirmed. Make sure you clearly designate your twelfth man.

R1
AndyZaltzHair: Viv Richards
Eds: Shane Warne
watson: Sydney Barnes
kingkallis: Dennis Lillee
Monk: Keith Miller
Blakus: Adam Gilchrist
Himannv: Curtly Ambrose
Cevno/Marcuss: Imran Khan
kyear2: Malcolm Marshall
MrPrez: Wally Hammond
Valer: Muttiah Muralitharan

R2
Jager: Mike Procter
Eds: Glenn McGrath
AndyZaltzHair: Jacques Kallis
Valer: Andy Flower
Blakus: Alan Davidson
watson: Ray Lindwall
kingkallis: Waqar Younis
MrPrez: Sachin Tendulkar
kyear2: Barry Richards
Monk: Brian Lara
Cevno/Marcuss: Fred Trueman
Himannv: Allan Donald

R3
Jager: Dale Steyn
kyear2: Jim Laker
Eds: Graeme Pollock
Monk: John Snow
watson: Charlie Macartney
Valer: Courtney Walsh
kingkallis: Len Hutton
Himannv: Greg Chappell
Blakus: Ian Botham
AndyZaltzHair: Joel Garner
Cevno/Marcuss: Herbert Sutcliffe
MrPrez: Victor Trumper

R4
Jager: Rahul Dravid
Eds: Clyde Walcott
Valer: Charlie Turner
kyear2: Ricky Ponting
kingkallis: Everton Weekes
AndyZaltzHair: Neil Harvey
Monk: Sunil Gavaskar
MrPrez: Jeff Thomson
watson: Bill Lawry
Himannv: Frank Tyson
Cevno/Marcuss: Steve Waugh
Blakus: Richie Benaud

R5
Jager: Dudley Nourse
watson: Neil Adcock
kingkallis: Matthew Hayden
Valer: Javed Miandad
Monk: Kapil Dev
AndyZaltzHair: Arthur Morris
kyear2: Les Ames
Blakus: Denis Compton
Eds: WG Grace
Himannv: Ken Barrington
MrPrez: Fred Spofforth
Cevno/Marcuss: Alan Knott

R6
Jager: Stan McCabe
kyear2: Ian Bishop
AndyZaltzHair: Graham Gooch
Valer: Bruce Mitchell
Blakus: Wes Hall
MrPrez: Anil Kumble
Monk: Derek Underwood
watson: Bob Simpson
Himannv: Geoff Boycott
kingkallis: Hedley Verity
Cevno/Marcuss: Clive Lloyd
Eds: Colin Croft

R7
Jager: Shane Bond
Eds: Shivnarine Chanderpaul
MrPrez: Vijay Hazare
Himannv: Eddie Paynter
watson: Bill Ponsford
AndyZaltzHair: Peter Pollock
kingkallis: Doug Walters
Valer: George Lohmann
Blakus: Virender Sehwag
kyear2: Alec Bedser
Monk: Ian Chappell
Cevno/Marcuss: Hugh Tayfield

R8
Jager: Graeme Smith
kingkallis: Trevor Goddard
watson: John Waite
Himannv: Hugh Trumble
AndyZaltzHair: Fazal Mahmood
Eds: Maurice Tate
Valer: Mahela Jayawardene
kyear2: Lindsay Hassett
Marcuss: Archie Jackson
Monk: Frank Woolley
Blakus: Clem Hill
MrPrez: Ian Healy

R9
Jager: Matt Prior
Eds: Martin Crowe
AndyZaltzHair: Wilfred Rhodes
watson: Bill Johnston
MrPrez: Bill Woodfull
Blakus: Brian Statham
kyear2: Tony Greig
Monk: Michael Clarke
Valer: Eddie Barlow
kingkallis: Andrew Flintoff
Himannv: Douglas Jardine
Cevno/Marcuss: Bob Willis

R10
Jager: Mohammad Yousuf
Valer: Herbie Taylor
watson: Maurice Leyland
Eds: Desmond Haynes
AndyZaltzHair: Denis Lindsay
kingkallis: Jeffrey Dujon
Cevno/Marcuss: Justin Langer
Monk: Roy Fredericks
Blakus: Stanley Jackson
kyear2: Sid Barnes
Himannv: Conrad Hunte
MrPrez: Herschelle Gibbs

R11
Jager: Mark Waugh
Eds: Zaheer Abbas
Cevno/Marcuss: Warwick Armstrong
AndyZaltzHair: Michael Hussey
Himannv: Don Tallon
watson: Patsy Hendren
MrPrez: Jack Cowie
kingkallis: Hashim Amla
Valer: Mohammad Azharuddin
Monk: Farohk Engineer
kyear2: Seymour Nurse
Blakus: Michael Slater

Jager: Johnny Wardle
Eds: Alec Stewart
watson: Peter Heine
Valer: Johnny Briggs
kyear2: Mark Taylor
Monk: Jason Gillespie
Himannv: Aravinda de Silva
AndyZaltzHair: John Reid
Blakus: Monty Noble
kingkallis: Dean Jones
MrPrez: Damien Martyn
Cevno/Marcuss: Mushtaq Mohammad

Voodoo: Garfield Sobers, Richard Hadlee, Donald Bradman, Bill O’Reilly, Wasim Akram, Clarrie Grimmett, George Headley, Shaun Pollock, Michael Holding, Andy Roberts, Harold Larwood, Allan Border, Frank Worrell, Aubrey Faulkner, Kumar Sangakkara, Rohan Kanhai, Gordon Greenidge, Peter May, Kevin Pietersen, Ted Dexter, Kumar Ranjitsinhji, Inzamam Ul-Haq, Vijay Merchant, AB de Villiers, Hanif Mohammad, David Gower, Godfrey Evans, Richie Richardson, VVS Laxman, Colin Cowdrey, Jack Gregory, Colin Bland

 

[Blakus]

In a bit of a pickle here. Noble or Statham?
Noble is the superior all-round cricketer and enhances my all-ready strong batting depth, but Statham is the better bowler. What do you guys think?

1.Virender Sehwag
2.Michael Slater
3.Clem Hill
4.Denis Compton
5.Stanley Jackson(6)
6.Ian Botham(5)
7.Adam Gilchrist+
8.Richie Benaud*(4)
9.Alan Davidson(1)
10.Wes Hall(2)
11.Brian Statham(3)

or

1.Virender Sehwag
2.Michael Slater
3.Clem Hill
4.Denis Compton
5.Stanley Jackson(6)
6.Ian Botham(3)
7.Adam Gilchrist+
8.Monty Noble(4)
9.Richie Benaud*(5)
10.Alan Davidson(1)
11.Wes Hall(2)

 

[Jager]

I would personally go for the first team there. The bowling is probably more important than the batting in that case

 

[watson]

???

1.Virender Sehwag
2.Michael Slater
3.Clem Hill
4.Denis Compton
5.Stanley Jackson(6)
6.Adam Gilchrist+
7.Monty Noble(4)
8.Ian Botham(3)
9.Richie Benaud*(5)
10.Alan Davidson(1)
11.Wes Hall(2)

 

[Red]

Abbott's XI

1. Sunil Gavaskar
2. Roy Fredericks
3. Ian Chappell (c)
4. Brian Lara
5. Keith Miller
6. Frank Woolley
7. Farohk Engineer (wk)
8. Kapil Dev
9. Jason Gillespie
10. John Snow
11. Derek Underwood

12th- Michael Clarke

Batting pretty much speaks for itself. We are a super aggressive side who will score quickly, with Gavaskar to anchor things. Fredericks an outstanding opener, Chappell combative and tough at 3, the brilliance of Lara at 4, Miller (hopefully in the right mood) to attack from 5, and the all round brilliant game of Woolley at 6. Then we have Engineer and Kapil, who both averaged in the 30s as test batsmen, at 7 and 8.

Have decided to make Clarke 12th, as I think we need the pace bowling Gillespie provides. It gives me six genuine bowling options-

1. John Snow
2. Keith Miller
3. Jason Gillespie
4. Kapil Dev
5. Derek Underwood
6. Frank Woolley

I think strike bowling is important in this type of match, and my three quicks provide that. Miller can be used in short bursts for maximum effectiveness. Chappell is on record saying that Snow was the best quick he ever faced (including the WIs). Gillespie was rated by many to be as difficult as any quick in the world in his prime. Kapil is a fine swing bowler, and Underwood a miserly and effective spinner, especially on pitches suited to spin. Woolley provides left arm medium or slow.

As a fielding side we are top notch. Chappell, Miller, Fredericks, Woolley and Lara are all fieldsmen of the highest calibre, both in the infield and the cordon.

One more interesting point to note (that I'd like to say I planned but mostly happened by chance) is my combination of left and right handers-

Gavaskar (right)
Fredericks (left)
Chappell (right)
Lara (left)
Miller (right)
Woolley (left)
Engineer (right)




Many thanks to Jager for his organisation of the draft. Great concept and very well run.


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[watson]

Abbott's XI

1. Sunil Gavaskar
2. Roy Fredericks
3. Ian Chappell (c)
4. Brian Lara
5. Keith Miller
6. Frank Woolley
7. Farohk Engineer (wk)
8. Kapil Dev
9. Jason Gillespie
10. John Snow
11. Derek Underwood

12th- Michael Clarke

Much better team IMO.

 

[Jager]

Jager's XI
01. Jack Hobbs
02. Graeme Smith*
03. Rahul Dravid
04. Stan McCabe 5
05. Dudley Nourse
06. Mohammad Yousuf
07. Matt Prior †
08. Mike Procter 1
09. Johnny Wardle 4
10. Shane Bond 2
11. Dale Steyn 3

12. Mark Waugh 6

Is that the right lineup?

 

[Himannv]

01. Geoff Boycott
02. Conrad Hunte
03. Ken Barrington
04. Greg Chappell
05. Douglas Jardine*
06. Eddie Paynter
07. Hugh Trumble
08. Don Talon+
09. Curtly Ambrose
10. Frank Tyson
11. Allan Donald

12th: Aravinda de Silva

Writeup: My team is awesome.

 

[Valer]

"Spreadsheet" XI
1.Bruce Mitchell
2 Eddie Barlow o
3.Herbie Taylor
4. Mahela Jayawardene (vc)
5. Javed Miandad (C)
6 Mohammad Azharuddin
7 Andy Flower(Wk)
8 Charlie Turner o
9 George Lohmann o
10 Muttiah Muralitharan o
11 Courtney Walsh o

12 Johnny Briggs o

Outscores any of the open draft teams despite the format
140.66 years of experience
833 Test Matches
>42,000 Runs
1599 Wickets
24.25 WPM (summed averages) (not inc runouts.)
19.77 Expected wicket cost (based on expected proption of wickets taken // no runouts)
Extra spinner if needed
(All values sans 12th man)


Serious writeup later

 

[Jager]

That's 5/12 confirmed teams