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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    I don't mean to be a prick, but I think if you miss an entire round in this format, you should have to wait until the completion of the comp (11 or 12 rounds) to select again, rather than getting two selections in the next round.

    Just seems fairer than giving someone who misses a round two chances in the next one. You really only have to check in once or twice a day and email Jager once or twice a day....
    Way too harsh, and after all its supposed to be all in fun.
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    As I said, didn't mean to be a prick!

    I think that in this format, two selections in a round gives you a distinct advantage for that particular round. In a "normal" draft, if you time out you might miss an opportunity to secure a player if someone takes him before you, so there is a slight penalty for being late. In this one, seeing all things are equal at the commencement of each round, having two picks in one round effectively doubles your chances for that round of securing a player. If you want a spinner, you can choose the best and second best available, and you have a higher chance of securing one or the other, than other players who haven't missed a round. It seems a reward for missing a round almost.

    Just my thoughts, it seems like as we progress there could be a distinct advantage in missing a round then having two picks in the following round. I don't mind either way, but yeh...

    And I understand it's meant to be fun....not trying to make it un-fun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    As I said, didn't mean to be a prick!

    I think that in this format, two selections in a round gives you a distinct advantage for that particular round. In a "normal" draft, if you time out you might miss an opportunity to secure a player if someone takes him before you, so there is a slight penalty for being late. In this one, seeing all things are equal at the commencement of each round, having two picks in one round effectively doubles your chances for that round of securing a player. If you want a spinner, you can choose the best and second best available, and you have a higher chance of securing one or the other, than other players who haven't missed a round. It seems a reward for missing a round almost.

    Just my thoughts, it seems like as we progress there could be a distinct advantage in missing a round then having two picks in the following round. I don't mind either way, but yeh...

    And I understand it's meant to be fun....not trying to make it un-fun!
    This is a very good point, all things considered. Hadn't really thought of it this way, but it makes sense.
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    Make it so both players have to pass.
    If somebody has to pick two players then they have to nominate Player A and Player B.
    For those picking one player, they're all effectively picking Player As.

    Jager will firstly consider all Player As in the usual manner and then he will consider Player B from the twice-picking player against all other pickers.

    Example. Alan, Brad and Colin (Brad picking twice).

    1-
    A - Neil Harvey
    B - Chris Pringle, Neil Harvey
    C - Chris Pringle

    2-
    A - Neil Harvey
    B - Michael Slater, Mark Boucher
    C - Mark Boucher

    3-
    A - Neil Harvey
    B - Michael Slater, Archie Jackson
    C - Mark Boucher

    Final-

    B]A - Neil Harvey[/B]
    B - Michael Slater, Archie Jackson
    C - Mark Boucher


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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    As I said, didn't mean to be a prick!

    I think that in this format, two selections in a round gives you a distinct advantage for that particular round. In a "normal" draft, if you time out you might miss an opportunity to secure a player if someone takes him before you, so there is a slight penalty for being late. In this one, seeing all things are equal at the commencement of each round, having two picks in one round effectively doubles your chances for that round of securing a player. If you want a spinner, you can choose the best and second best available, and you have a higher chance of securing one or the other, than other players who haven't missed a round. It seems a reward for missing a round almost.

    Just my thoughts, it seems like as we progress there could be a distinct advantage in missing a round then having two picks in the following round. I don't mind either way, but yeh...

    And I understand it's meant to be fun....not trying to make it un-fun!
    I may be missing something, but I don't see how. If delaying your selection was a distinct advantage then I'd be selecting the whole team at once during Round 11.
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    Quote Originally Posted by watson View Post
    I may be missing something, but I don't see how. If delaying your selection was a distinct advantage then I'd be selecting the whole team at once during Round 11.
    I see your point. I phrased it wrong. Missing a round, and having two selections in the following round gives you a distinct advantage for that following round.

    In this format, it is not a matter of simply "making up" a pick. It doubles your chance for a round. So rather than picking after your allocated time with a smaller pool of players to choose from (as in a standard draft where everyone sees everyone's selections), you are given a full pool of available players in a fresh round, with double the picks of other drafters. Sure, you may have missed on players in the previous round, but you now have a distinct advantage in the current round over other drafters, which to me seems a slightly unfair reward for missing a round....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    I see your point. I phrased it wrong. Missing a round, and having two selections in the following round gives you a distinct advantage for that following round.

    In this format, it is not a matter of simply "making up" a pick. It doubles your chance for a round. So rather than picking after your allocated time with a smaller pool of players to choose from (as in a standard draft where everyone sees everyone's selections), you are given a full pool of available players in a fresh round, with double the picks of other drafters. Sure, you may have missed on players in the previous round, but you now have a distinct advantage in the current round over other drafters, which to me seems a slightly unfair reward for missing a round....
    I never thought that we would need a statician while playing a Draft game. And I'm not a statician

    However, the fact remains - the pool of avialable ATGs diminishes each Round whether you particpate or not. And that has to be a distinct disadvantage (?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by watson View Post
    I never thought that we would need a statician while playing a Draft game. And I'm not a statician

    However, the fact remains - the pool of avialable ATGs diminishes each Round whether you particpate or not. And that has to be a distinct disadvantage (?)
    True, and it doesn't bother me a heap. And I am most certainly not a statistician! Just struck me as slightly unfair...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcuss View Post
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    This is alright with me, just tell me when Cev comes back into it.
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    Did we decide on 12 hours, or sticking with 24, in the end?

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    First round 24, repick rounds 12.

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    I forgot to say sent - "sent"

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    R4.2 commences. 12 hour selection period here.

    Jager: Jack Hobbs
    AndyZaltzHair: Viv Richards
    Eds: Shane Warne
    watson: Sydney Barnes
    kingkallis: Dennis Lillee
    Monk: Keith Miller
    Blakus: Adam Gilchrist
    Himannv: Curtly Ambrose
    Cevno: Imran Khan
    kyear2: Malcolm Marshall
    MrPrez: Wally Hammond
    Valer: Muttiah Muralitharan

    Jager: Mike Procter
    Eds: Glenn McGrath
    AndyZaltzHair: Jacques Kallis
    Valer: Andy Flower
    Blakus: Alan Davidson
    watson: Ray Lindwall
    kingkallis: Waqar Younis
    MrPrez: Sachin Tendulkar
    kyear2: Barry Richards
    Monk: Brian Lara
    Cevno: Fred Trueman
    Himannv: Allan Donald

    Jager: Dale Steyn
    kyear2: Jim Laker
    Eds: Graeme Pollock
    Monk: John Snow
    watson: Charlie Macartney
    Valer: Courtney Walsh
    kingkallis: Len Hutton
    Himannv: Greg Chappell
    Blakus: Ian Botham
    AndyZaltzHair: Joel Garner
    Cevno: -
    MrPrez: Victor Trumper

    Jager: Rahul Dravid
    Eds:
    Valer: Charlie Turner
    kyear2: Ricky Ponting
    kingkallis: Everton Weekes
    AndyZaltzHair:
    Monk: Sunil Gavaskar
    MrPrez:
    watson: Bill Lawry
    Himannv: Frank Tyson
    Cevno:
    Blakus:

    Voodoo: Garfield Sobers, Richard Hadlee, Donald Bradman, Bill O’Reilly, Wasim Akram, Clarrie Grimmett, George Headley, Shaun Pollock, Michael Holding, Andy Roberts
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    In regards to Prez's selections, he gave me two selections. His first one was awarded here and his second is now pending against everyone else who needs to pick now. Cevno needs to put up two selections as well, which I believe Marcuss is doing for him.

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    Jager's XI
    1. Jack Hobbs
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    3. Rahul Dravid
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    8. Mike Procter
    9.
    10. Dale Steyn
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