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    Perhaps a compromise;

    Dravid
    Hammond
    Sobers
    Pietersen

    I think that the side should get full value from the fourth or fifth greatest batsman of all time. Sobers talent is wasted at No.6 IMO.
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    Fully agree with that, plus during his career batted everywhere, including opener. Great problem to have that batting order.
    Aus. XI
    Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2


    W.I. XI
    Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4

    S.A. XI
    Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Waite+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2

    Eng. XI
    Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3

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    Quote Originally Posted by watson View Post
    Perhaps a compromise;

    Dravid
    Hammond
    Sobers
    Pietersen

    I think that the side should get full value from the fourth or fifth greatest batsman of all time. Sobers talent is wasted at No.6 IMO.
    This looks good to me. Some of the criticism leveled at Dravid is that his SR is too slow for a number 3 in tests. It's true, his strike rate is slow, but it doesn't matter heaps.

    Dravid, for most of his career, has batted in the middle of Sehwag and Tendulkar. As long as the score is moving fluently, there's no reason to think that your number 3 needs to have a SR of 50 plus. I'd prefer someone who can bat through a day early in a test while the team builds a really big score, especially in the first innings.

    Dravid is perfect at 3 in KK's lineup, while the rest of the batsmen score quickly around him.

    And having KP come in at 6 (after Sobers/Hammond) had destroyed them would be demoralizing for the bowlers, very much so!

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    Don't know why any player's SR is coming into the question to be honest! This is test cricket. Hashim Amla has just shown us the value of an extremely patient number three batsman, too.

    Marcuss has timed out! MrPrez is up.
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    R1
    kingkallis- Garfield Sobers
    Himannv- Imran Khan
    Marcuss- Adam Gilchrist
    Cabinet96- Keith Miller
    Eds- Malcolm Marshall
    Cevno- Richard Hadlee
    Blakus- Vivian Richards
    MrPrez- Jaques Kallis
    watson- Glenn McGrath
    Jager- Curtly Ambrose
    AndyZaltzHair- Dennis Lillee
    kyear2- Jack Hobbs

    R2
    kyear2- Shane Warne
    AndyZaltzHair- Fred Trueman
    Jager- Sachin Tendulkar
    watson- Michael Holding
    MrPrez- Muttiah Muralitharan
    Blakus- Sydney Barnes
    Cevno- Wasim Akram
    Eds- Brian Lara
    Cabinet96- Len Hutton
    Marcuss- Bill O'Reilly
    Himannv- Alan Davidson
    kingkallis- Wally Hammond

    R3
    Jager- Waqar Younis
    kyear2- Allan Donald
    Himannv- George Headley
    AndyZaltzHair- Ray Lindwall
    Eds- Joel Garner
    Marcuss- Aubrey Faulkner
    kingkallis- Dale Steyn
    Blakus- Graeme Pollock
    Cabinet96- Clyde Walcott
    Cevno- Shaun Pollock
    MrPrez- Mike Procter
    watson- Andy Roberts

    R4
    watson- Greg Chappell
    MrPrez- Victor Trumper
    Cevno- Andrew Flower
    Cabinet96- Jim Laker
    Blakus- Sunil Gavaskar
    kingkallis- Richie Benaud
    Marcuss- Ian Botham
    Eds- Barry Richards
    AndyZaltzHair- Clarrie Grimmett
    Himannv- Frank Tyson
    kyear2- Ricky Ponting
    Jager- Harold Larwood

    R5
    AndyZaltzHair- Les Ames
    kyear2- Everton Weekes
    Blakus- Herbert Sutcliffe
    Jager- Neil Harvey
    Cabinet96- Courtney Walsh
    Marcuss- Steve Waugh
    Cevno- WG Grace
    MrPrez- Allan Border
    watson- Alan Knott
    kingkallis- Rahul Dravid
    Himannv- Ken Barrington
    Eds- Kapil Dev

    R6
    Eds- Frank Worrell
    Himannv- Denis Compton
    kingkallis- Matthew Hayden
    watson- Hedley Verity
    MrPrez- Ian Healy
    Cevno- Anil Kumble
    Marcuss- Javed Miandad
    Cabinet96- Fazal Mahmood
    Jager- Wilfred Rhodes
    Blakus- Kumar Sangakkara
    kyear2- Denis Lindsay
    AndyZaltzHair- Arthur Morris

    R7
    watson- Bob Simpson
    Jager- Dudley Nourse
    AndyZaltzHair- Clive Lloyd
    Eds- Gordon Greenidge
    kingkallis- Graham Gooch
    Marcuss- Geoff Boycott
    kyear2- Colin Croft
    Himannv- Hanif Mohammad
    MrPrez- Saqlain Mushtaq
    Blakus- Frederick Spofforth
    Cevno- Virender Sehwag
    Cabinet96- Bruce Mitchell

    R8
    Cabinet96- Shivnarine Chanderpaul
    Cevno- Shane Bond
    Blakus- Peter Pollock
    MrPrez- Bob Willis
    Himannv- Bill Lawry
    kyear2- Ted Dexter
    Marcuss- Ian Bishop
    kingkallis- Wes Hall
    Eds- Charles Macartney
    AndyZaltzHair- Bill Ponsford
    Jager- Alec Stewart
    watson- Rohan Kanhai

    R9
    Cabinet96- David Gower
    Cevno- Inzamam-ul-Haq
    Eds- Hugh Tayfield
    AndyZaltzHair- Frank Woolley
    Marcuss- Stan McCabe
    Jager- Doug Walters
    MrPrez- Bill Woodfull
    kingkallis- Kevin Pietersen
    watson- Mushtaq Mohammad
    Blakus- Kumar Ranjitsinhji
    Himannv- Peter May
    kyear2- Vijay Merchant

    R10
    kyear2- John Snow
    Himannv- Derek Underwood
    Blakus- Hugh Trumble
    watson- Lindsay Hassett
    kingkallis- Rod Marsh
    MrPrez- Brian Statham
    Jager- Douglas Jardine
    Marcuss- Graeme Smith
    AndyZaltzHair- Eddie Paynter
    Eds- AB de Villers
    Cevno- Mohammad Yousuf
    Cabinet96- Alec Bedser

    R11
    AndyZaltzHair- Ian Chappell
    Jager- Matt Prior
    MrPrez- Younis Khan
    Marcuss- Charlie Turner
    Blakus- John Waite
    Himannv- Godfrey Evans
    kyear2- Martin Crowe
    Eds- Eddie Barlow
    kingkallis- Neil Adcock
    watson- Mark Taylor
    Cevno- Mahela Jayawardene
    Cabinet96- Michael Hussey

    R12
    Cabinet96- Damien Martyn
    Cevno-
    watson- Tony Greig
    kingkallis- George Lohmann
    Eds- Jeffrey Dujon
    kyear2- Richie Richardson
    Himannv- Bobby Peel
    Blakus- Warwick Armstrong
    Marcuss-
    MrPrez-
    Jager-
    AndyZaltzHair-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    Don't know why any player's SR is coming into the question to be honest! This is test cricket. Hashim Amla has just shown us the value of an extremely patient number three batsman, too.

    Marcuss has timed out! MrPrez is up.
    Amla's strike rate was 58. In test match cricket, that's cranking.

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    I'm going to assume you didn't watch the innings then! It was certainly not a cranking innings. His SR did slowly, slowly climb from around 50 to 58, but there was hardly any noticeable acceleration until he was well past 200 runs.

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    OK fair enough.

    I only made the comment because, from memory, both Bradman and Vic Richards had SRs of around 58. And they're not noted for being the type needing a good lie down with a bex and a hot cup of tea.

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    Didn't mean that in a rude way, by the way. You might find this interesting actually, gives us a good idea of what the oldies may have been like (although I always add 10 onto the strike rates of pre-ODI players if I am thinking about how they would bat now).

    Batting records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPN Cricinfo

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    Nice bit of stats there Jager, didn't know Hill had such great strike rate

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    Shahid Afridi with a SR of 87 at the top lol
    And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyZaltzHair View Post
    Nice bit of stats there Jager, didn't know Hill had such great strike rate
    Yeah it's really interesting! Trumper, Hill, Woolley, McCabe and Macartney shine through especially

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    Yeah it's really interesting! Trumper, Hill, Woolley, McCabe and Macartney shine through especially
    I read this guy Herbie Taylor made all of his runs in very tough pitches; that strike rate is amusing

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    01. Bill Lawry
    02. Hanif Mohammad
    03. George Headley
    04. Kan Barrington
    05. Dennis Compton
    06. Peter May
    07. Imran Khan*
    08. Godfrey Evans+
    09. Alan Davidson
    10. Derek Underwood
    11. Frank Tyson

    12. Bobby Peel

    Have been wondering whether to play Peel ahead of Underwood but I think I've got it right.
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    Pretty dour team there Himannv, but no denying its strength. Imagine having to get Lawry, Hanif, Barrington and May out



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