CW Draft League

[Jager]

May a dasher?

 

[Red]

May a dasher?

Not? I defer to you then! What sort of batsman was he?

For some reason I always imagined him as an English Doug Walters, but I am probably way off!

 

[Jager]

Not? I defer to you then! What sort of batsman was he?

For some reason I always imagined him as an English Doug Walters, but I am probably way off!

A classical batsman with exceptional technique and defense - from a sample of 1691 balls his strike rate was 39.26

 

[watson]

There are a few perception busting SRs in your list Jager.

I would never thought that Warren Bardley would be an attacking batsman - but a SR of 58.37 and an average of 40.47 on uncovered pitches makes him a very handy left-handed opener. Must remember that for future drafts. Same goes for thh South Africans Dudley Nourse and Aubrey Faulkner. Surprise.

I think that Botham, Woolley, Lara and Gregory all sitting at bang on 60 has a poetic ring about it.

 

[Himannv]

A classical batsman with exceptional technique and defense - from a sample of 1691 balls his strike rate was 39.26

I don't really put too much stock into SR stats generally. Based on what I've read of him, he is consistent and prolific with the bat and has a perfect technique. He plays with a straight bat and has a complete range of strokes.

I reckon it's probably overkill having him come in at 6 but I don't really have much choice as the others all pick themselves in their respective slots.

 

[watson]

I don't really put too much stock into SR stats generally. Based on what I've read of him, he is consistent and prolific with the bat and has a perfect technique. He plays with a straight bat and has a complete range of strokes.

I reckon it's probably overkill having him come in at 6 but I don't really have much choice as the others all pick themselves in their respective slots.

Nothing wrong with a bit of batting depth Himannv. But I'm wondering who your 5th bowler is? Did Compton bowl much spin? I'm trying to remember.

Or do you think that Imran, Tyson, Davidson, and Underwood is enough to bowl out the opposition on their own, and therefore a 5th bowler is superfluous. A fair enough assumption.

 

[Jager]

Compton was quite a handy chinaman bowler but didn't exactly take it too seriously

 

[watson]

He bowled left-handed? I didn't know that.

 

[Himannv]

Nothing wrong with a bit of batting depth Himannv. But I'm wondering who your 5th bowler is? Did Compton bowl much spin? I'm trying to remember.

Or do you think that Imran, Tyson, Davidson, and Underwood is enough to bowl out the opposition on their own, and therefore a 5th bowler is superfluous. A fair enough assumption.

Usually when deciding on a draft team I tend to target four main bowlers. If all four are what I would consider as world class, I don't bother much about the 5th bowler, as is the case in this instance. Of course, I'm not averse to having an allrounder in there if I'm lucky enough to snag one.

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

Enjoyed this vid of Peter May few weeks back- Peter May 113 vs Australia- 2nd Test 1958/59 ASHES Melbourne - YouTube

 

[Jager]

R1
kingkallis- Garfield Sobers
Himannv- Imran Khan
Marcuss- Adam Gilchrist
Cabinet96- Keith Miller
Eds- Malcolm Marshall
Cevno- Richard Hadlee
Blakus- Vivian Richards
MrPrez- Jaques Kallis
watson- Glenn McGrath
Jager- Curtly Ambrose
AndyZaltzHair- Dennis Lillee
kyear2- Jack Hobbs

R2
kyear2- Shane Warne
AndyZaltzHair- Fred Trueman
Jager- Sachin Tendulkar
watson- Michael Holding
MrPrez- Muttiah Muralitharan
Blakus- Sydney Barnes
Cevno- Wasim Akram
Eds- Brian Lara
Cabinet96- Len Hutton
Marcuss- Bill O'Reilly
Himannv- Alan Davidson
kingkallis- Wally Hammond

R3
Jager- Waqar Younis
kyear2- Allan Donald
Himannv- George Headley
AndyZaltzHair- Ray Lindwall
Eds- Joel Garner
Marcuss- Aubrey Faulkner
kingkallis- Dale Steyn
Blakus- Graeme Pollock
Cabinet96- Clyde Walcott
Cevno- Shaun Pollock
MrPrez- Mike Procter
watson- Andy Roberts

R4
watson- Greg Chappell
MrPrez- Victor Trumper
Cevno- Andrew Flower
Cabinet96- Jim Laker
Blakus- Sunil Gavaskar
kingkallis- Richie Benaud
Marcuss- Ian Botham
Eds- Barry Richards
AndyZaltzHair- Clarrie Grimmett
Himannv- Frank Tyson
kyear2- Ricky Ponting
Jager- Harold Larwood

R5
AndyZaltzHair- Les Ames
kyear2- Everton Weekes
Blakus- Herbert Sutcliffe
Jager- Neil Harvey
Cabinet96- Courtney Walsh
Marcuss- Steve Waugh
Cevno- WG Grace
MrPrez- Allan Border
watson- Alan Knott
kingkallis- Rahul Dravid
Himannv- Ken Barrington
Eds- Kapil Dev

R6
Eds- Frank Worrell
Himannv- Denis Compton
kingkallis- Matthew Hayden
watson- Hedley Verity
MrPrez- Ian Healy
Cevno- Anil Kumble
Marcuss- Javed Miandad
Cabinet96- Fazal Mahmood
Jager- Wilfred Rhodes
Blakus- Kumar Sangakkara
kyear2- Denis Lindsay
AndyZaltzHair- Arthur Morris

R7
watson- Bob Simpson
Jager- Dudley Nourse
AndyZaltzHair- Clive Lloyd
Eds- Gordon Greenidge
kingkallis- Graham Gooch
Marcuss- Geoff Boycott
kyear2- Colin Croft
Himannv- Hanif Mohammad
MrPrez- Saqlain Mushtaq
Blakus- Frederick Spofforth
Cevno- Virender Sehwag
Cabinet96- Bruce Mitchell

R8
Cabinet96- Shivnarine Chanderpaul
Cevno- Shane Bond
Blakus- Peter Pollock
MrPrez- Bob Willis
Himannv- Bill Lawry
kyear2- Ted Dexter
Marcuss- Ian Bishop
kingkallis- Wes Hall
Eds- Charles Macartney
AndyZaltzHair- Bill Ponsford
Jager- Alec Stewart
watson- Rohan Kanhai

R9
Cabinet96- David Gower
Cevno- Inzamam-ul-Haq
Eds- Hugh Tayfield
AndyZaltzHair- Frank Woolley
Marcuss- Stan McCabe
Jager- Doug Walters
MrPrez- Bill Woodfull
kingkallis- Kevin Pietersen
watson- Mushtaq Mohammad
Blakus- Kumar Ranjitsinhji
Himannv- Peter May
kyear2- Vijay Merchant

R10
kyear2- John Snow
Himannv- Derek Underwood
Blakus- Hugh Trumble
watson- Lindsay Hassett
kingkallis- Rod Marsh
MrPrez- Brian Statham
Jager- Douglas Jardine
Marcuss- Graeme Smith
AndyZaltzHair- Eddie Paynter
Eds- AB de Villers
Cevno- Mohammad Yousuf
Cabinet96- Alec Bedser

R11
AndyZaltzHair- Ian Chappell
Jager- Matt Prior
MrPrez- Younis Khan
Marcuss- Charlie Turner
Blakus- John Waite
Himannv- Godfrey Evans
kyear2- Martin Crowe
Eds- Eddie Barlow
kingkallis- Neil Adcock
watson- Mark Taylor
Cevno- Mahela Jayawardene
Cabinet96- Michael Hussey

R12
Cabinet96- Damien Martyn
Cevno-
watson- Tony Greig
kingkallis- George Lohmann
Eds- Jeffrey Dujon
kyear2- Richie Richardson
Himannv- Bobby Peel
Blakus- Warwick Armstrong
Marcuss- Trevor Goddard
MrPrez-
Jager- Gary Kirsten
AndyZaltzHair- Zaheer Abbas

 

[Jager]

Gary Kirsten for me now

1. Gary Kirsten
2. Douglas Jardine*
3. Neil Harvey
4. Sachin Tendulkar
5. Dudley Nourse
6. Doug Walters
7. Matt Prior+
8. Wilfred Rhodes
9. Harold Larwood
10. Curtly Ambrose
11. Waqar Younis

12. Alec Stewart

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

I need quality batting reserve; I'm going with Zaheer Abbas

1. Bill Ponsford
2. Arthur Morris
3. Ian Chappell
4. Eddie Paynter
5. Clive Lloyd *
6. Frank Woolley
7. Les Ames +
8. Ray Lindwall
9. Dennis Lillee
10. Fred Trueman
11. Clarrie Grimmett

12. Zaheer Abbas

 

[Himannv]

Nice team Jager.

 

[Red]

I need quality batting reserve; I'm going with Zaheer Abbas

1. Bill Ponsford
2. Arthur Morris
3. Ian Chappell
4. Eddie Paynter
5. Clive Lloyd *
6. Frank Woolley
7. Les Ames +
8. Ray Lindwall
9. Dennis Lillee
10. Fred Trueman
11. Clarrie Grimmett

12. Zaheer Abbas

This team has no obvious flaws. That bowling attack is insanely good, great openers, great middle order, great fields men (Chappell, Lloyd and Woolley especially).

This is going to be a tough decision when voting on the best.

1. Gary Kirsten
2. Douglas Jardine*
3. Neil Harvey
4. Sachin Tendulkar
5. Dudley Nourse
6. Doug Walters
7. Matt Prior+
8. Wilfred Rhodes
9. Harold Larwood
10. Curtly Ambrose
11. Waqar Younis

12. Alec Stewart

Great team as well. I'd be inclined to play Stewart as as opener, and leave Jardine out.
Great bowling attack again. Serious heat and pace there.

 

[Eds]

Yes a great team, Worrell was a better pacer than spinner though and I think he is a better option at three than Macartney. Just think that Dev is a realative weak link as the third seamer, but that's probably just me.

Macartney's record was exemplary at 3. Plus Worrell has the burden of being the fifth bowler, and captain.

Kapil Dev's Strike Rate is 63.9 which isn't bad for a swing bowler.

In comparison, Maurice Tate was 80.7 and Alec Bedser was 67.4.

Kapil also has the advantage of being a capable batsman. Although Maurice Tate was pretty handy with the bat in his time.

Personally, I prefer sub-60 fast bowlers, but who am I to say that having a slower swing bowler in your team isn't an excellent contrast to extreme pace.

I think that some batsman like Hayden and Gooch prefer straight up-and-down fast bowling to the ball moving around. So, if I were Ed's captain I may even open the attack with Marshall and Kapil Dev when playing KKs team. Especially if it's overcast.

BTW kyear, really strong side as well. I really must pick John Snow in my next draft.

Awesome post. And with a captain as good as Worrell, I don't think the side would have any trouble adapting. Dev doesn't need to be an incredible strike bowler in this side, either. We've got Marshall and Garner for that.

 

[watson]

I need quality batting reserve; I'm going with Zaheer Abbas

1. Bill Ponsford
2. Arthur Morris
3. Ian Chappell
4. Eddie Paynter
5. Clive Lloyd *
6. Frank Woolley
7. Les Ames +
8. Ray Lindwall
9. Dennis Lillee
10. Fred Trueman
11. Clarrie Grimmett

12. Zaheer Abbas

Really strong team Andy!

The top order and bowling attacks are obvious stand-outs. I think that both Morris and Ponsford would enjoy appreciate batting with the aggressive Chappell who would take most of the strike.

If Lloyd and Woolley got going then they would be something very special to watch. My team would need to get Woolley early before he started to hit too many boundaries. The accuracy of McGrath and Roberts, or perhaps McGrath and Verity are obvious bowlers of choice. Holding could then have a crack at Ames and Lindwall IF they were successful.

If only this were all real!

BTW Here is some excellent footage of Lindwall in action (at the 1 minute mark it seems to be him) during the 1948 series. Well, excellent footage for 1948. I was particularly interested in the inswinging yorker (to the left hander) generated by his slightly round-arm action.

THIRD TEST CRICKET - THIRD DAY - British Path

 

[Jarquis]

Trevor Goddard

 

[watson]

This colour footage from 1963 features Fred Trueman bowling. Poor Brian Close drops Sobers at second slip off his bowling (from what I can tell).

However, the stand-out footage is of Wes Hall in action from a couple of different camera angles. Judging by his pace on the day I would say that the 2 short-legs and leg slip were justified.

So this video is really for KK. Enjoy.

Selected Originals - QUEEN AT LORDS - Technicolor - British Path

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

Very enjoyable clips watson; thanks for sharing!