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    Pace
    Turner: 3
    Mahmood: 1
    Adcock: 3
    Tate: 3
    Anderson: 1
    Snow: 4
    Lohmann: 3
    Statham: 1
    Hall: 4
    Gillespie: 1

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    Stewart: 3
    Russell: 1
    Healy: 4
    Evans: 1
    Dujon: 1

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    Kumble: 7
    Rhodes: 3
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    How people are choosing Stewart over Dujon, Evans, Waite, Grout etc. is beyond me, to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    How people are choosing Stewart over Dujon, Evans, Waite, Grout etc. is beyond me, to be honest.
    For me batting simple as that, I think this side needs it and I don't think you lose too much in the wicket keeping.
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    Stewart as a keeper batsman is extremely over-rated. Russell was a far better keeper and not that much worse a batsman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacknife View Post
    For me batting simple as that, I think this side needs it and I don't think you lose too much in the wicket keeping.
    For sure, but picking Stewart is a huge step down in wicketkeeping skill, which puts me off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178 View Post
    Stewart as a keeper batsman is extremely over-rated. Russell was a far better keeper and not that much worse a batsman.
    Don't think he is extremely over-rated, otherwise he'd have been picked before now.

    Stewart playing as Wicketkeeper batmen averaged around 36, so he's a fair bit better than Russell in the batting stakes when keeping and he was excellent against some of the best fast bowlers around in the 90's. Sure Russell was the better keeper but Stewart wouldn't let you down.

    I just thought looking at the batting line up we could do with the best bat who was decent enough with gloves so I went with the all rounder, rather than the specialist, I really rate Russell though and have picked him before.

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    Am I seeing correct that arguably the greatest pure keeper of the modern era is still available.
    Aus. XI
    Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2


    W.I. XI
    Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4

    S.A. XI
    Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Cameron+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2

    Eng. XI
    Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyear2 View Post
    Am I seeing correct that arguably the greatest pure keeper of the modern era is still available.
    Yes, becuase the modern era is about 1/6 of cricket, give or take, and being"arguably" the best from a given era means he's probably in the top 2 or 3 just from that era alone.

    So yeah, someone who you qualified as being roughly in the top 15 pure keepers hasn't been selected in the first 8 teams, not all of which would be suited to playing a pure keeper at all. That sounds entirely reasonable, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    Yes, becuase the modern era is about 1/6 of cricket, give or take, and being"arguably" the best from a given era means he's probably in the top 2 or 3 just from that era alone.

    So yeah, someone who you qualified as being roughly in the top 15 pure keepers hasn't been selected in the first 8 teams, not all of which would be suited to playing a pure keeper at all. That sounds entirely reasonable, no?
    Agree with what you're saying, although I want to add that this forum seems to favour modern players overall (my opinion) which might be where some of kyear's surprisal comes from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    Yes, becuase the modern era is about 1/6 of cricket, give or take, and being"arguably" the best from a given era means he's probably in the top 2 or 3 just from that era alone.

    So yeah, someone who you qualified as being roughly in the top 15 pure keepers hasn't been selected in the first 8 teams, not all of which would be suited to playing a pure keeper at all. That sounds entirely reasonable, no?
    Was just saying that I was surprised he is still available, to the point I went back to check to make sure he wasn't already picked, so I picked him.

    No need to disect every thing I say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyear2 View Post
    Am I seeing correct that arguably the greatest pure keeper of the modern era is still available.
    Yes, but then you didn't pick him.



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