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    Clyde Walcott. ATG batsman and very under rated wicket keeper. Kept brilliantly to Ramadin and Valentine for countless overs, better keeper than Flower and better batsman. Additionally the only reason that he kept for only 15 tests was because he developed back problems in Australia, not because he was dropped for performance reasons.
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    Aus. XI
    Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2


    W.I. XI
    Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4

    S.A. XI
    Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Waite+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2

    Eng. XI
    Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3

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    IMO, this side needs a counterattacking wicketkeeper to bat 7, capable of batting strongly with the tail, or to get the side back on track if Marshall, Hadlee et al. destroy the top order.

    With that in mind, I'd pick Denis Lindsay, just ahead of Ames.
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    Lindsay is a good call as well.
    CricZo XI - Draft League

    Season 1 M Hayden, G Gooch, R Dravid, W Hammond, K Pietersen, G Sobers, R Marsh (wk), R Benaud (c), D Steyn, W Hall, N Adcock

    Season 2 J Hobbs, B Richards, D Boon, H Taylor, C Lloyd (c), A Stewart (wk), T Goddard, A Davidson, H Tayfield, C Ambrose, H Griffith

    Season 3 H Sutcliffe, M Hayden, I Chappell (c), G Pollock, A Faulkner, M Hussey, D Lindsay (wk), I Botham, A Kumble, M Marshall, D Lillee

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    I have to go for Walcott here. His keeping skills were good and this side's tail is long.
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    The Ames v Walcott battle is an interesting contest.

    Near identical records as keeper-batsman, however Ames has the longer career with the gloves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noble One View Post
    The Ames v Walcott battle is an interesting contest.

    Near identical records as keeper-batsman, however Ames has the longer career with the gloves.
    I rate Ames far higher with the gloves, but Walcott is a genuine ATG batsman and this team desperately needs the batting, in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    I rate Ames far higher with the gloves, but Walcott is a genuine ATG batsman and this team desperately needs the batting, in my opinion.
    However, much like Sangakkara you need to rate Walcott on his performance as a keeper-batsman. His record is merely very good, it's as a standalone batsman he is ATG material.

    I have no issue with his selection however. Rated highly by his peers with the gloves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noble One View Post
    However, much like Sangakkara you need to rate Walcott on his performance as a keeper-batsman. His record is merely very good, it's as a standalone batsman he is ATG material.

    I have no issue with his selection however. Rated highly by his peers with the gloves.
    Good point. Interestingly enough, Ames' average is 44 whilst playing as the designated keeper- 4 runs higher than as a specialist batsman.

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    This English top three are cornflakes. They're not the most exciting thing out but they're pretty effective. Then the middle order are the sugar. Would be too much on their own but added to the cornflakes they add some much needed interest

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    Every one's record has holes. Walcott played his first series in Oz with a badly injured back which also forced him to give up the gloves.



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