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    Official extra bowler vote tally
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    Akram: 6
    Barnes: 1
    Miller: 5
    Davidson: 2

    Also, could everyone please put their votes in italics or bold if their selections are in a piece of text? It makes it easier to count when I am double-checking.
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    Miller.

    Would have Knott at #8.

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    Interesting choice here. Will go for Miller to bat at 7. Knott will make an impressive number 8

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    Quote Originally Posted by G.I.Joe View Post
    We have Gilchrist at 7 in the World XI and Knott at 7 for the A team.
    The first team already has an advantage in the batting department that would only be strengthened if we played Miller at 6 in the A team. Miller and Knott are vastly inferior as batsmen to Sobers and Gilchrist. IMO we need a batsman/Kallis at 6 here and a bowler/bowling all-rounder at 9.

    I can't decide whether to vote Miller or Barnes at 9.
    Good point. So if we select Kallis and Miller, we end up with a similar bowling strength as the first XI. The batting is still going to be inferior with Bradman and Gilchrist leaving their counterparts far behind. Would have been a good idea to use Walcott or Sangakkara or Flower as wicket-keeper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8ankitj View Post
    Good point. So if we select Kallis and Miller, we end up with a similar bowling strength as the first XI. The batting is still going to be inferior with Bradman and Gilchrist leaving their counterparts far behind. Would have been a good idea to use Walcott or Sangakkara or Flower as wicket-keeper?
    Interesting. We have Hammond as a fifth bowler at this moment. In ITC, can you factor in wicketkeeping skill?

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    Have to say I prefer the shortlist approach (with amendments as people suggest them) - less likely to miss someone in that scenario.

    I'll go Davidson using Vic's reasoning but picking the better bowler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178 View Post
    Have to say I prefer the shortlist approach (with amendments as people suggest them) - less likely to miss someone in that scenario.

    I'll go Davidson using Vic's reasoning but picking the better bowler.
    Was a toss-up between the two for me, but thought that with Ambrose, Murali and Hadlee all very capable of keeping it tight, Davison plays too similar a role.

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    We're not going to match the First XI's batting because we don't have Bradman or Sobers. So instead of trying to we can alternatively pick Miller and Barnes, so that what is lost to the First XI in the batting department is all but made up for with the bowling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sean View Post
    We're not going to match the First XI's batting because we don't have Bradman or Sobers. So instead of trying to we can alternatively pick Miller and Barnes, so that what is lost to the First XI in the batting department is all but made up for with the bowling.
    Or Gilchrist...

    That'd be good thinking as well. But the 4 frontline bowlers are going to be pretty even on both sides with that selection. The only real point second XI scores is Miller's bowling over Sobers. Is that enough to make up for the gulf in batting? I don't think so.

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    Record speaks for itself - 20.53 is up there with the best. Economical, meticulous in his line and length, could bowl long spells and make valuable lower-order runs. Plus he was a very good fieldsman.
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    It's interesting looking at how we formulate these teams. When I'm selecting my All Time XIs, the last position I generally pick is the wicketkeeper. This may seem unfair or like I'm not giving 'keepers enough respect, but I find that once I've formulated the rest of the team, I can then make the call as to how strong a batsman my 'keeper needs to be. Note that I only pick 'keepers who I feel are good enough glovemen to belong in teams like this (so blokes like Walcott or Sanga are out), but I find that once I can see the balance of the team I am then in a better position to judge whether the side would benefit more from a Flower type (outstanding batsman, capable gloveman), an Ames type (good batsman, very good gloveman) or a Blackham/Evans type (passable batsman, magnificent gloveman). Something to consider, perhaps?
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