View Poll Results: CW All Time XI Openers

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  • Geoffrey Boycott

    2 3.13%
  • Sunil Gavaskar

    21 32.81%
  • Gordon Greenidge

    4 6.25%
  • Desmond Haynes

    1 1.56%
  • Jack Hobbs

    52 81.25%
  • Len Hutton

    26 40.63%
  • Hanif Mohammad

    0 0%
  • Arthur Morris

    0 0%
  • Barry Richards

    7 10.94%
  • Virender Sehwag

    1 1.56%
  • Herbert Sutcliffe

    9 14.06%
  • Victor Trumper

    7 10.94%
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    CW All-Time XI Openers

    Using an expanded short list from the one used by Wisden in their recent exercise, lets see what our team would look like compared to the ones the fans voted for. Format: 2 openers, 3 middle order batsmen, 2 all rounders, wicket keeper, spinner and two fast bowlers. We are starting with the Openers. Others to follow shortly.

    Openers Short List:
    Geoffrey Bocott, Sunil Gavaskar, Gordon Greenidge, Desmond Haynes, Jack Hobbs, Len Hutton, Hanif Mohammad, Virender Sehwag, Herbert Sutcliffe, Victor Trumper, Barry Richards, Arthur Morris.

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    Hobbs and Hutton for me.
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    Barry Richards, All time opener with only 7 innings all at home against a mediocre attack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    Hobbs and Hutton for me.
    This.

    As much as I would like to vote for Trumper and Richards, I can't go past Hobbs and Hutton.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNT View Post
    Barry Richards, All time opener with only 7 innings all at home against a mediocre attack.
    Obviously, it's not because of the 7 innings alone.

    This is an interesting one. I generally pick an all time XI with representation from all nations. Not sure if I should stick to that here. Anyway, I will go with Hobbs and Hutton (Gavaskar so perilously close as well).

    I also hope that Sobers gets listed as a pure batsman and Imran/Hadlee as pure bowlers as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNT View Post
    Barry Richards, All time opener with only 7 innings all at home against a mediocre attack.
    The legend of Barry Richards is based mainly on his first class career and he stint in WSC. But the average of 72 doesn't hurt either. He was seen by many as the second best bat of his generation after his namesake.
    Aus. XI
    Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2


    W.I. XI
    Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4

    S.A. XI
    Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Waite+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2

    Eng. XI
    Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3

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    This WSC innings played at Perth in 1978 does enhance Barry Richards reputation.



    WSC World XI 1st innings

    BA Richards c GS Chappell b Bright 207

    CG Greenidge c †Marsh b Bright 140

    IVA Richards c Walker b Lillee 177

    CH Lloyd c GS Chappell b Lillee 37

    Asif Iqbal c GS Chappell b Lillee 1

    AW Greig* c Edwards b Lillee 14

    Imran Khan c Walker b Bright 15

    APE Knott† c Walker b Bright 20

    WW Daniel b Bright 1

    AME Roberts c Davis b Gilmour 1

    DL Underwood not out 0

    Extras (b 4, lb 4, nb 4) 12

    Total (all out; 114.3 overs; 580 mins) 625 (4.09 runs per 6 balls)
    Tendulkar - M.Waugh - Ponting - Richards - Dhoni - Bevan - Kapil Dev - Hadlee - Akram - Garner - Muralitharan

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    Quote Originally Posted by watson View Post
    This WSC innings played at Perth in 1978 does enhance Barry Richards reputation.

    WSC World XI 1st innings
    BA Richards c GS Chappell b Bright 207
    Not to mention that game for South Australia where he made 325 on the first day, and ended up with 356 of a total of 575. This against an attack including Lillee, McKenzie, Lock and Mann.

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    Hobbs was the Master, and while there may have been better openers there has never been a better opening partnership than Hobbs and Sutclife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyear2 View Post
    Hobbs was the Master, and while there may have been better openers there has never been a better opening partnership than Hobbs and Sutclife.
    Yes, Hobbs was a genius. But I'd rather watch Hobbs bat with Gavaskar or Barry Richards. I can't imagine Sutcliffe belting a West Indian attack all over the park like Gavaskar did in 1983. 121 runs off 128 balls is awesome, even on a Delhi track.

    2nd Test: India v West Indies at Delhi, Oct 29-Nov 3, 1983 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

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    Hobby and Sunny
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    Quote Originally Posted by watson View Post
    Yes, Hobbs was a genius. But I'd rather watch Hobbs bat with Gavaskar or Barry Richards. I can't imagine Sutcliffe belting a West Indian attack all over the park like Gavaskar did in 1983. 121 runs off 128 balls is awesome, even on a Delhi track.

    2nd Test: India v West Indies at Delhi, Oct 29-Nov 3, 1983 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
    Well Hutton is my normal pick, but just think that Sutcliffe (and Headley and Lindwall among others) are really under rated here and in a match scenario who better to open with Hobbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watson View Post
    This WSC innings played at Perth in 1978 does enhance Barry Richards reputation.



    WSC World XI 1st innings

    BA Richards c GS Chappell b Bright 207

    CG Greenidge c †Marsh b Bright 140

    IVA Richards c Walker b Lillee 177

    CH Lloyd c GS Chappell b Lillee 37

    Asif Iqbal c GS Chappell b Lillee 1

    AW Greig* c Edwards b Lillee 14

    Imran Khan c Walker b Bright 15

    APE Knott† c Walker b Bright 20

    WW Daniel b Bright 1

    AME Roberts c Davis b Gilmour 1

    DL Underwood not out 0

    Extras (b 4, lb 4, nb 4) 12

    Total (all out; 114.3 overs; 580 mins) 625 (4.09 runs per 6 balls)
    That was the match where Barry and Viv were batting together, and in his excitement Tony Cozier said "for our viewers at home who might be watching in black and white, Barry Richards is the one in the helmet".
    Last edited by Burgey; 24-04-2012 at 09:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyear2 View Post
    Well Hutton is my normal pick, but just think that Sutcliffe (and Headley and Lindwall among others) are really under rated here and in a match scenario who better to open with Hobbs.
    We watch cricket because it is entertaining. We like our side to win of course, but we prefer them to win brilliantly. That's why Boycott will rarely make it into an All Time Great team because he is just not inspiring. And Sutcliffe is similar to Boycott. Dour and methodical. Highly talented but not brilliant to watch.

    On the other hand the footwork and range of shots exhibited by Hobbs, Gavaskar, and Barry Richards sets them apart.

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    Went Hobbs and Sutcliffe because I just really like that they were a real partnership.

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