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    Fake sympathy, or delayed concern?

    As a fast bowler, one generally bowls a bouncer to intimidate. Occasionally, it's part of a laid out plan to get the batsman out hooking, but by and large (and I say this as a fairly innocuous seam bowler myself), one does it to physically intimidate the batsman. While nobody likes seeing a bloodied batsman out for the count, isn't that a logical enough outcome of a tough projectile hurled at the batsman's head at 90 mph from 22 yards? I know there's a human aspect to the game, but it's always seemed like a strange dichotomy to me; at least 60% of your conscious brain (I'm being conservative) as a fast bowler is trying to hurt the batsman, and then when you see him down, you go over to see after his wellbeing. Any quick bowlers here ever thought about this?

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    Depends on the individual I think.
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    I don't really see any contradiction, personally. Would you say the same about a boxer who enquires about the health of an opponent he's just knocked out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uppercut View Post
    I don't really see any contradiction, personally. Would you say the same about a boxer who enquires about the health of an opponent he's just knocked out?
    Won't enquire after your health once I've knocked you out, ****.


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    I think it's more an expected social courtesy. I think most fast bowlers aren't too disappointed if they see some blood. Now obviously if you permanantly harm somebody, that's a different story and I don't think most people want that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    I think it's more an expected social courtesy. I think most fast bowlers aren't too disappointed if they see some blood. Now obviously if you permanantly harm somebody, that's a different story and I don't think most people want that.
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    I think we're being naive if we think when a bowler is having a word with a felled batsman he's always enquiring after his health. I've little doubt some of the more unreconstructed quicks are telling them exactly where the next ball will be aimed or that if they're that **** they will be hit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    They should fight like they do in ice hockey, eh?
    That would definitely be awesome. Better idea than night Tests or a Test chamiponship.

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    Like Burgey said it depends on the individual.

    You start with a concerned fast bowler,
    i.e Brett Lee and then go -> Most other fast bowlers-> Thommo -> Pattinson at which point its no ****s given if he kills you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    that would definitely be awesome. Better idea than night tests or a test chamiponship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    They should fight like they do in ice hockey, eh?


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    It depends on the intention of the bowler. Bowlers shouldn't bowl the bouncers to hurt the batsman, and all the stuff that commentators say about bowlers getting angry if they charges in bowl a 90 + mph delivery and gets hit for a four/six is more about norms of cricketing world or expectation of people from a fast bowler, even at junior levels you hear couches saying stuff like "a fast bowler should charge at batsman" and other crap. Bowlers can and should focus on getting the batsman out rather than hurting the batsman.

    as far as bowlers go to see the well being of the batsman goes, a lot of time we as human beings realize that something is wrong after we have done it, this could be one of the reasons why bowlers first hit the batsman then go to see well being of the batsman. Another reason would be if a bowler hurts the batsman and doesn't go to see his well being, people would see that bowler in negative way.

    but its more about delayed concern than the image.
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    For me its quite simple, if you get hit and the bowler does not check ur wellbeing its ok. Cricket is not a game for cry babies. Also in proffesional sport if you can intimidate your opponent, half the battle is won. I say more chin music!

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    Likening it to boxing isn't ideal because combat sports breed a very different mindset through the training, sparring, actual bouts, etc. Yet, even through the "gentlemanly" era of the game, bowlers like Thommo have never been averse to felling the bloke at the other end.

    EDIT: Not saying the teams under Chappell had anything of the "gentleman" in them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasimione View Post
    For me its quite simple, if you get hit and the bowler does not check ur wellbeing its ok. Cricket is not a game for cry babies. Also in proffesional sport if you can intimidate your opponent, half the battle is won. I say more chin music!
    Cricket is not about hiting or intimidating your opponent, its about scoring more runs than your opponent. if you want to intimidate your opponent then you should follow some other sport.

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