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Mental Health Issues in Cricket - Apparently Extremely Common
Judging by this article...
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There's good money to be had treating mental health issues in sportsmen, that's for sure.
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Hold on though mate. The article simply states that they 'used mental health programmes', it doesn't say they are all clinically depressed or paranoid or something. Some may be, but something ridiculous like 1 in 3 people will suffer from some form of mental illness at some point during their life. So this doesn't necessarily mean anything except guys getting over the concept that admitting to problems equals weakness.
This is actually good news IMO, better that this kinda **** gets out in the open and sorted out than allowed to fester
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One doubt I always had was if it was not much about cricket, but more about an english problem, because of the perception of the general society about cricketers. Brearley writes "cricket and sports in general" but I won't generalize like that. If the masterwork 'The Suicide' by Emilé Durkheim ever taught us something is that the suicide (as depression) is not an individual act of weakness as was believed for centuries, but strongly influenced by the society around; of course everybody knows some depressed sportsman and person, however it's a fact that some countries, religions and jobs produces more, you just need to look at how their suicide ratios remains pretty much the same for long periods of time with peaks and lows in case of certain exceptional events (wars, crisis, industry booms). A little sidenote, sometime in cricket you hear conception "is that particular sport/activity that attract depressed people" but that only holds true to a lesser point which I'm not keen to discuss here, I invite you all to read that book (and why not, his confutations) if you are interested in the matter. Back to the matter, a feeling that I had is that the reason so many more cricketers ends up depressed compared to other sportsmen is influenced by the perception that the general public has of them, which, often, is nearly nothing, leading them to a feeling that they've wasted their lifes, often without even the consolation of money (there are not a lot of money to be made in county cricket, and by the time that you're 35 you have to start from scratch in some other basic activities). I remember reading an interview with Collingwood saying 'how much he'd have preferred to play football', and how often the generic briton (and new zealander)* I met answered, when I mentioned that I follow cricket 'Oh really? You do?" with added remarks like 'Is Steve Waugh still playing?' only to smugly underline that they couldn't care less. Hell, of all the britons that I have played club cricket with, there was not one that was really interested in international cricket! Or at least not as much as he was into football or rugby, which they were much more keen to discuss (so it's not only about me being a douche). To put it short, cricket is not the problem; the general perception of the english public towards cricketers (which becomes their own) is the real problem. On the other side, and this is what I'm interested in, I hear much less cases of cricket depression from countries like India and Australia, where it looks to me that people are not embarassed to say that they actually follow the game. However, as someone said 'the plural of anecdote is not data', so given that all of this was only from my own experience I could be easily wrong. I think it would be impossible to know the depression and suicide rates for cricketers in the various countries, so I'd like to hear what people think about this. *EDIT Last edited by Гурин; 12-02-2013 at 07:23 AM. |
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The artcle by Brearley was just quality.. I can understand why he was considered such a good man-manager. He looks like exactly the kind of captain a player can go and talk about his insecurities easily to.
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1- He mentions that one of the problems is that international cricketers spend a lot of time away from home, but one of the gut feelings i have is that first class cricketers are no less prone to depression than international ones (if anything, it looks the other way around) 2- About pressure, I can completely understand from where he's coming from, however let's not forget that the vast majority of FC games are played in front of three men and a dog, the individual results may be more objectively defined but are not comparable with football players (every code) playing in front of tens of thousands every week. I still mantain that one of the problems might sometime be this, a lack of pressure, things could however be different now that IPL and BBL are around. But let's not forget: cricket is a sport without a free market, where only around 15 players from a country are going to play at the highest level; for such an objective sport, the subjective bias of a selector is an immense power tool, and sometime I can see a player feeling that everything he does could be pointless. Let's not forget that depression in Durkheim analysis had two axis: -Integration -Regulations Lack or eccess in one of the two could lead to depression and maybe eventually suicide. Not that I can write about anomie in cricket in little time and in a language that's not my own, but it's a point of view that I'd like to see deepened. 3- "Cricket has traditionally been a middle- and upper-class pursuit in many parts of the world - attracting people who in other walks of life know and -chase perfection, a trait common among depression sufferers." So what about the other parts of the world? Isn't then still a locally social (and not cricketing) problem? That's why I'd love to hear from our subcontinent based fans, cricket holds such a different place in their culture with nearly everybody playing and a lot of people following the game that, has the thing about 'cricket attracts depressed people' been true, one could think that those countries as a whole should be more prone to suicide and depression since how much more cricket is followed compared to us. I was thinking about Australia aswell, but, while not the same, they are still culturally a lot closer to England, SA and NZ. 4- "The game, buried in statistics, may attract the analytically inclined - the sort of person who wants to obsess about technique and dwell on statistical comparisons to justify his worth to the team." A sidenote, you guys have no idea of how many chess players at every level are into cricket (and to a lesser extent baseball), from Nigel Short to Peter Svidler (who said that his dream is to become the first russian-speaking cricket commentator, and who has a photo in the nets on his facebook page) to a bunch of less known ones, so this might well be true. Last edited by Гурин; 13-02-2013 at 01:50 AM. |
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