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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Yeah decent team, I'd go the full monty with the ODI specialists though and suggest on a whim;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahnz View Post
    As I recall, Franklin was still closer to his old self in that series, generally operating in the low to mid 130's, and getting a bit of swing. I remember later that summer he bowled a couple of really good spells against India at the Basin, and we all got very excited that old Jimmy was back. Sigh. The point is, he was nowhere near as good as he was pre-2007 WC, but it wasn't really until the following year that he completely shelved his bowling to become a batting allrounder.
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    Nah, he was terrible bar one spell. That spell where he tried to kill Nash then got him out really accentuated the difference between what he could have been and what he was in that series.
    Before that Windies series no one knew he was bowling pies. He was quoted as saying that he was hitting the gloves really hard and it would be interesting to see what the speed guns said about him as it had been a while. Once the series started he bowled averagely - except for the Nash dismissal but even then the commentators were questioning how a 120km bowler had bounced anybody out.

    I remember later that summer he bowled a couple of really good spells against India at the Basin, and we all got very excited that old Jimmy was back.
    I must have missed those discussions. he got one to cut towards slips to Gambhir and then followed it up with one that cut in and trapped him in front. It was quality bowling but he never did anything else I can recall in the series. He just tried to bowl miracle balls after that instead of mounting consistent pressure. It was like he had no moxy.

    But going into that Windies series he was regarded as good. Hence my point that we shouldn't rate our current bowling attack as being a cut above.

    As an aside - I think that if Hadlee can come of 9 steps then Franklin needs to as well. Just accept you are a 120kms bowler - and get a run up to match your speed. It would help considerably with over rates.
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    The naming of the New Zealand squad to tour the West Indies from late June has been delayed until the middle of April. The itinerary is due around the end of this week.
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/cricket/ne...ectid=10796494

    Oh **** me. India's now lured us into setting a two-test precedent, "in a nod to the upcoming world T20".

    If you ever see 'third Test of New Zealand's tour' written again, it could well be Bangladesh. Two tests are slated for England next May "as an Ashes warm-up", so that'll be all of the major nations who've succeeded in that little de-friending coup of precedence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kippax View Post
    Cricket: Monsoon plays part as T20s added to India tour schedule - Cricket - NZ Herald News

    Oh **** me. India's now lured us into setting a two-test precedent, "in a nod to the upcoming world T20".

    If you ever see 'third Test of New Zealand's tour' written again, it could well be Bangladesh. Two tests are slated for England next May "as an Ashes warm-up", so that'll be all of the major nations who've succeeded in that little de-friending coup of precedence.
    Sucks to be us.

    Although we reap what we sow, Bracewell as coach, Turner as chief selector. These are guys who valued limited overs above test cricket. (in their own post-playing days). Let alone our own scheduling & CEOs.

    Only way to fix it;
    a) value test cricket ourselves
    b) be less **** at it
    c) then hope people are kind to us ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kippax View Post
    Cricket: Monsoon plays part as T20s added to India tour schedule - Cricket - NZ Herald News

    Oh **** me. India's now lured us into setting a two-test precedent, "in a nod to the upcoming world T20".

    If you ever see 'third Test of New Zealand's tour' written again, it could well be Bangladesh. Two tests are slated for England next May "as an Ashes warm-up", so that'll be all of the major nations who've succeeded in that little de-friending coup of precedence.
    They shouldn't be allowed to do that. It's such bull****.

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    That's painful. Though tbf isn't this India tour over and above FTP requirements anyway? we only toured them not long ago.

    What is vastly more crap is the prospect of two tests v the Windies (tbc). The two bottom test teams (ish) who are both supposed to be moving up in the world. Evenly matched and separated by 2 measly points on the ladder. And we get TWO tests! Why even bother? If we are lucky it might even be rain affected and end 0-0 like the last waste of time WI tour of NZ.

    T20 WC is going to be a total turd btw. Doubt I will even summon the energy to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by straw man View Post
    That's painful. Though tbf isn't this India tour over and above FTP requirements anyway? we only toured them not long ago.

    What is vastly more crap is the prospect of two tests v the Windies (tbc). The two bottom test teams (ish) who are both supposed to be moving up in the world. Evenly matched and separated by 2 measly points on the ladder. And we get TWO tests! Why even bother? If we are lucky it might even be rain affected and end 0-0 like the last waste of time WI tour of NZ.

    T20 WC is going to be a total turd btw. Doubt I will even summon the energy to watch.
    http://static.espncricinfo.com/db/DO..._2011_2020.pdf

    The West Indies tour should have 3 tests, 5 ODIs and 2 T20Is. The Indian tour should have 3 tests. This FTP has only been out for like nine months and we've already lost test matches in separate tours.

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    Monsoon season is a fair reason tbh.

    Though I do agree they would have taken any excuse.
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    You'd like to think that the three test matches New Zealand are suppose to play in the Windies stay as it is, could be a bloody good one.

    Apparently Neil Wagner was suppose to find out today when he's eligible to play for New Zealand. Guessing that's why the squad delay has occurred.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howsie View Post
    You'd like to think that the three test matches New Zealand are suppose to play in the Windies stay as it is, could be a bloody good one.
    Are you saying it would be good if it turns out to be a 3 test series in the West indies?

    Or are you saying you have heard it will be a 3 test series?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane View Post
    Are you saying it would be good if it turns out to be a 3 test series in the West indies?

    Or are you saying you have heard it will be a 3 test series?
    It's suppose to be isn't it? According to the FTP it is anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howsie View Post
    It's suppose to be isn't it? According to the FTP it is anyway.
    OK - got you now.

    yeah I guess we need to wait for the official itinerary - possibly due tomorrow?

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    Yeah still have fingers crossed that it's a proper 3 test series v West Indies.

    Still a bit confused as to whether our tour of India is part of the regular FTP or not - I have a feeling I read something a while ago that India had agreed to something along those lines. We must have kissed some ass to get that if so!

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