Modern Greats

[salman85]

There's always talk of an ATG list,but let's limit ourselves to modern greats.Any player who made his international debut on or after 1st January 2000.Top 5,in order please.

 

[Howe_zat]

Quite sure on the top 3, after that I'm easy.

1. Dale Steyn
2. Kumar Sangakkara
3. Virender Sehwag
4/5. Kevin Pietersen / Michael Clarke / AB De Villiers

Gilchrist misses the criteria by 2 months, otherwise I'd likely have him no.1.

 

[ankitj]

For some reason, that date hasn't registered in the mind as any sort of cut off for a different era. If you ask for players who debuted after 1st Jan 1990, I could tell with confidence who qualify.

Anyway, I'd go...

Dale Steyn
Kumar Sangakkara
Virendra Sehwag
Greame Smith
Kevin Pietersen
Michael Hussey

Pretty sure I have left out some good names.

EDIT: Inserting Sanga, and removing Hussey.

 

[weeman27bob]

Would Dhoni's ODI performances put him in with a shout?

 

[Cabinet96]

Probably missed some obvious ones to be honest, but here are the ones that came to mind.

1. Kumar Sangakarra
2. Dale Steyn
3. Graeme Smith
4. Michael Hussey
5. Sehwag Kevin Pietersen/AB de Villiers/Michael Clarke

Prior, Anderson, Samaraweera, Cook, and a few others, miss out.

 

[salman85]

Only one bowler has been mentioned so far.Testament to the last decade being a batsman's decade?

 

[Pothas]

Quite sure on the top 3, after that I'm easy.

1. Dale Steyn
2. Kumar Sangakkara
3. Virender Sehwag
4/5. Kevin Pietersen / Michael Clarke / AB De Villiers

Gilchrist misses the criteria by 2 months, otherwise I'd likely have him no.1.

Not disagreeing with much there, does not compare all that well to a similar list of those that made their debut in the 90s although obviously a fair few names there have many years left in them.

 

[smash84]

Would Dhoni's ODI performances put him in with a shout?

Dhoni is the greatest odi wk ever

 

[Howe_zat]

Would Dhoni's ODI performances put him in with a shout?

Yeah, I guess. The bloke took his side to the no.1 Test nation and then won the World Cup too, and it's not like it's really up to us what makes Dhoni good. That said, it is something of an unwritten rule that we mean Tests unless said otherwise.

 

[ankitj]

Not disagreeing with much there, does not compare all that well to a similar list of those that made their debut in the 90s although obviously a fair few names there have many years left in them.

Clarke can end as an ATG.

 

[smash84]

in 00s

Steyn
Sangers
Sehwag
Shakib/Swann

 

[Pothas]

Clarke can end as an ATG.

Don't really go in for the term but I think de Villiers is actually more likely, either way none of those 3 Howe mentioned will be rated quite as high as Ponting, Lara, Dravid or Kallis.

 

[fredfertang]

Steve Harmison
Graeme Swann
Dale Steyn
Mohammad Amir
Alistair Cook

 

[salman85]

I think Amir wasn't around long enough to make the list.The same would go for Swann,and even Ajmal for the matter.I'd say Asif would have a better chance of making this list.

 

[Cabinet96]

Not disagreeing with much there, does not compare all that well to a similar list of those that made their debut in the 90s although obviously a fair few names there have many years left in them.

Yeah, and that's why I think most of those players can end their careers with reputations such as Ponting, Tendulkar, Kallis, Donald etc...The fact that people have only debuted within the last 10 years means they haven't had a full career, and, therefore, don't pop up like the guys who made their debut's in the 90's.

 

[Prince EWS]

Great is a pretty subjective term but so far I'd only put Steyn and Sangakkara in my 'greats' list of those who debuted after Jan 1 2000. Obviously there are numerous others still playing who could get there, but not yet IMO.

 

[Agent Nationaux]

Steyn
Philander
Smith
Sanga
Hussey

Asif would have gone on to be an ATG if he hadn't ****ed up his career.

 

[Satguru]

Sanga being overrated a bit, imo... i love the guy, but he's struggled just as much as Sehwag and Jayawerdene in swinging conditions and ive never bought the idea that he's better than them by a considerable margin...

Steyn an automatic pick, and Sehwag too, becuase of his sheer impact.
Other than those two, id say Sanga, then Shakib and Anderson if they keep gunning it

 

[Cabinet96]

Too early for Phillander IMO. If he continues at this rate for another couple of series though and he'd probably make it.

 

[Jacknife]

If someone can pick Philander I'm picking Bresnan, with his ATG all-rounder numbers.