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    Modern Greats

    There's always talk of an ATG list,but let's limit ourselves to modern greats.Any player who made his international debut on or after 1st January 2000.Top 5,in order please.
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    Quite sure on the top 3, after that I'm easy.

    1. Dale Steyn
    2. Kumar Sangakkara
    3. Virender Sehwag
    4/5. Kevin Pietersen / Michael Clarke / AB De Villiers

    Gilchrist misses the criteria by 2 months, otherwise I'd likely have him no.1.
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    For some reason, that date hasn't registered in the mind as any sort of cut off for a different era. If you ask for players who debuted after 1st Jan 1990, I could tell with confidence who qualify.

    Anyway, I'd go...

    Dale Steyn
    Kumar Sangakkara
    Virendra Sehwag
    Greame Smith
    Kevin Pietersen
    Michael Hussey

    Pretty sure I have left out some good names.

    EDIT: Inserting Sanga, and removing Hussey.
    Last edited by ankitj; 27-03-2012 at 12:21 PM.
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    Would Dhoni's ODI performances put him in with a shout?


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    Probably missed some obvious ones to be honest, but here are the ones that came to mind.

    1. Kumar Sangakarra
    2. Dale Steyn
    3. Graeme Smith
    4. Michael Hussey
    5. Sehwag Kevin Pietersen/AB de Villiers/Michael Clarke

    Prior, Anderson, Samaraweera, Cook, and a few others, miss out.
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    Only one bowler has been mentioned so far.Testament to the last decade being a batsman's decade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    Quite sure on the top 3, after that I'm easy.

    1. Dale Steyn
    2. Kumar Sangakkara
    3. Virender Sehwag
    4/5. Kevin Pietersen / Michael Clarke / AB De Villiers

    Gilchrist misses the criteria by 2 months, otherwise I'd likely have him no.1.
    Not disagreeing with much there, does not compare all that well to a similar list of those that made their debut in the 90s although obviously a fair few names there have many years left in them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weeman27bob View Post
    Would Dhoni's ODI performances put him in with a shout?
    Dhoni is the greatest odi wk ever
    And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW

    Yeah we don't crap in the first world; most of us would actually have no idea what that was emanating from Ajmal's backside. Why isn't it roses and rainbows like what happens here? PEWS's retort to Ganeshran on Daemon's picture depicting Ajmal's excreta

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    Quote Originally Posted by weeman27bob View Post
    Would Dhoni's ODI performances put him in with a shout?
    Yeah, I guess. The bloke took his side to the no.1 Test nation and then won the World Cup too, and it's not like it's really up to us what makes Dhoni good. That said, it is something of an unwritten rule that we mean Tests unless said otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pothas View Post
    Not disagreeing with much there, does not compare all that well to a similar list of those that made their debut in the 90s although obviously a fair few names there have many years left in them.
    Clarke can end as an ATG.

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    in 00s

    Steyn
    Sangers
    Sehwag
    Shakib/Swann

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8ankitj View Post
    Clarke can end as an ATG.
    Don't really go in for the term but I think de Villiers is actually more likely, either way none of those 3 Howe mentioned will be rated quite as high as Ponting, Lara, Dravid or Kallis.

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    Steve Harmison
    Graeme Swann
    Dale Steyn
    Mohammad Amir
    Alistair Cook

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    I think Amir wasn't around long enough to make the list.The same would go for Swann,and even Ajmal for the matter.I'd say Asif would have a better chance of making this list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pothas View Post
    Not disagreeing with much there, does not compare all that well to a similar list of those that made their debut in the 90s although obviously a fair few names there have many years left in them.
    Yeah, and that's why I think most of those players can end their careers with reputations such as Ponting, Tendulkar, Kallis, Donald etc...The fact that people have only debuted within the last 10 years means they haven't had a full career, and, therefore, don't pop up like the guys who made their debut's in the 90's.

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