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What are you angry about?Triffitt to make call on joining Warriors - The West Australian
Trifiitt decies this w/k,Nevill stays in NSW ( i would go on a swearing tirade but don't want to be banned again).
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Australian off season domestic 2012/13
- Thread starter brockley
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Bench upset at the ammount of Blues leaving a sinking ship,must have to do with Stuart he had this same effect in New Zealand,ask the Kiwi posters.When Nevill said he would stay it was like so f******* what.
Cruikshank bats 3 for Manly,Henry even tho he opened for NSW and failed,bats 4/5.
I'd go for an opener like Daniel Hughes.(he is the best of a bad lot.)
Jake Doran is hit property,but middle order batsman,and hasn't played much first grade.Likely an Australian under 19 rep of the future(think he is 17).
Cruikshank bats 3 for Manly,Henry even tho he opened for NSW and failed,bats 4/5.
I'd go for an opener like Daniel Hughes.(he is the best of a bad lot.)
Jake Doran is hit property,but middle order batsman,and hasn't played much first grade.Likely an Australian under 19 rep of the future(think he is 17).
bondi beach
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Who will open the batting with Maddinson? I don't see an obvious replacement from within hence why I think NSW should be looking to sign a batsman from outside. Otherwise it will be Cruickshank. I don't believe the current squad is strong enough which is why I listed the 21 possible suggestions of players to sign above. Another one not on my original list is Middlesex batsman Sam Robson.
No panic at Cricket NSW despite exodus of leading players
NSW aren't panicking,i am afriad its not over yet,Henriques,Smith and ****ley have offers on the table yet.
I concede the wooden spoon.
Just pick youngsters.
NSW aren't panicking,i am afriad its not over yet,Henriques,Smith and ****ley have offers on the table yet.
I concede the wooden spoon.
Just pick youngsters.
bondi beach
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Burt ****ley? I thought NSW have gotten rid of him long ago. He spends more time on the treatment table than on the pitch! Henriques and Smith would be huge pluses.
It sounds like poor player management is the cause of Hauritz, Hughes and Khawaja departure. Perhaps the coach should have been sacked instead? Far easier to replace a coach than replace players of the calibre of Hughes and Khawaja.
It sounds like poor player management is the cause of Hauritz, Hughes and Khawaja departure. Perhaps the coach should have been sacked instead? Far easier to replace a coach than replace players of the calibre of Hughes and Khawaja.
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Andre
International Regular
A couple of reactions in particular are making me laugh big time.
Katich irreplaceable but the rest barely played and Hughes and Khawaja offered nothing on and off the field.
Off the top of my head I reckon a third of the guys playing Shield cricket are from NSW. Quite a few of these guys are better players and team contributors than Hughes and Khawaja. Cricket in this state didn't implode without them and it will be ok without the people leaving.
Hughes and Khawaja leaving strikes me as a bit weak, to be honest. No doubt they got told some home truths and have responded by leaving.
Hauritz leaving is fair enough - would you hang around if O'Keefe was skipper? Hauritz twice the cricketer he is but his cards are marked.
Katich irreplaceable but the rest barely played and Hughes and Khawaja offered nothing on and off the field.
Off the top of my head I reckon a third of the guys playing Shield cricket are from NSW. Quite a few of these guys are better players and team contributors than Hughes and Khawaja. Cricket in this state didn't implode without them and it will be ok without the people leaving.
Hughes and Khawaja leaving strikes me as a bit weak, to be honest. No doubt they got told some home truths and have responded by leaving.
Hauritz leaving is fair enough - would you hang around if O'Keefe was skipper? Hauritz twice the cricketer he is but his cards are marked.
Khawjah got whacked over the knuckles for his poor form with NSW in the 2nd half of the season,obviously he is a soft ***k.
Redbacks chasing Smith and Henriques,earlier this year.
Yeh ****ley had a contract,but heard he is 100 % not getting a contract.
Redbacks chasing Smith and Henriques,earlier this year.
Yeh ****ley had a contract,but heard he is 100 % not getting a contract.
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Andre
International Regular
This plus Hughes told anyone who would listen that he was leaving after he got left out of the NSW one day side mid season.
Weak.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Some massive over-reactions here. I reckon we'll be fine as long as we actually back the batting talent in the state and don't just stack the team with bowlers. By all rights Haddin should probably be with us for basically the entire season and both he and Nevill are good enough to play in the Shield as batsmen alone, so that's a plus there that no-one has really mentioned.
In my years of following this team there have been many, many factors stopping us from world domination - disruption of the side by players coming in and out, prolonged under-performance of PONIs, awfully balanced teams, ageism, randomly blacklisted players, Scott Coyte etc etc - but lack of talent in the state has never been one of those problems. An exodus from New South Wales is always going to be a positive for Australian cricket overall as we have the depth and talent to cover for it more than any other side, and while I'd have definitely have preferred if some of the fast bowlers left rather than our entire top order, I think we'll be right.
I wouldn't be against bringing someone like Cooper back home if he was interested but I don't think we should really need to go on a recruitment drive and take the homegrown talents of other states; we're better than that. If it means giving Cruickshank, Dawson, Henry or Thornely a run in the side then I'm absolutely okay with that - I'll probably enjoy cheering someone like that on more than Hughes or Khawaja anyway and I definitely like the idea more than Shaun Marsh or Liam Davis in the side. As long as it doesn't mean that Henriques, Smith and O'Keefe are all in the top six, and we actually try to develop a proper middle order, then we'll be sweet.
In my years of following this team there have been many, many factors stopping us from world domination - disruption of the side by players coming in and out, prolonged under-performance of PONIs, awfully balanced teams, ageism, randomly blacklisted players, Scott Coyte etc etc - but lack of talent in the state has never been one of those problems. An exodus from New South Wales is always going to be a positive for Australian cricket overall as we have the depth and talent to cover for it more than any other side, and while I'd have definitely have preferred if some of the fast bowlers left rather than our entire top order, I think we'll be right.
I wouldn't be against bringing someone like Cooper back home if he was interested but I don't think we should really need to go on a recruitment drive and take the homegrown talents of other states; we're better than that. If it means giving Cruickshank, Dawson, Henry or Thornely a run in the side then I'm absolutely okay with that - I'll probably enjoy cheering someone like that on more than Hughes or Khawaja anyway and I definitely like the idea more than Shaun Marsh or Liam Davis in the side. As long as it doesn't mean that Henriques, Smith and O'Keefe are all in the top six, and we actually try to develop a proper middle order, then we'll be sweet.
bondi beach
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Good news about ****ley who hasn't played since 2009.
Hasn't Smith offered the captaincy by SA? Smith scored 681 runs for NSW last year and so would be a massive loss to the side which has already lost three of its top seven run scorers last season.
NSW top scorers last year:
Smith 681
Nevill 646
Rohrer 619
Katich 583
Khawaja 480
Maddinson 422
Hughes 411
They certainly cannot afford to lose Smith, Nevill, Rohrer or Maddinson. What worries me about the batting replacement is that Dawson, Thornely and Cruickshank are all in their thirties and either unproven or in the case of Thornely not played proper state cricket (i.e. not the big bash) over the past few seasons.
O'Keefe has a first class batting average of 34 and a bowling average of 28 whereas Hauritz has a batting average of 21 and a bowling average of 43. NSW made the right call.
Hasn't Smith offered the captaincy by SA? Smith scored 681 runs for NSW last year and so would be a massive loss to the side which has already lost three of its top seven run scorers last season.
NSW top scorers last year:
Smith 681
Nevill 646
Rohrer 619
Katich 583
Khawaja 480
Maddinson 422
Hughes 411
They certainly cannot afford to lose Smith, Nevill, Rohrer or Maddinson. What worries me about the batting replacement is that Dawson, Thornely and Cruickshank are all in their thirties and either unproven or in the case of Thornely not played proper state cricket (i.e. not the big bash) over the past few seasons.
O'Keefe has a first class batting average of 34 and a bowling average of 28 whereas Hauritz has a batting average of 21 and a bowling average of 43. NSW made the right call.
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Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Kept saying Queensland at the time though. Maybe they didn't want him.
If you look at the balance of the NSW 2nd xl squad,we played generally 7/8 bowlers & allrounders,and maybe 3 batsmen,and even then we rotated or dropped them after 1 game,even Patterson didn't get a game for NSW 2nd xl.(funnily enough we came = second).
Defintely on grade form we will pick players,Greg Hunt for Stgeorge scored a ****load of runs last season,but he bats 3.
Defintely on grade form we will pick players,Greg Hunt for Stgeorge scored a ****load of runs last season,but he bats 3.
bondi beach
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Best current XI for NSW assuming CA players are unavailable:
Maddinson
Patterson
Smith
Rohrer
Henriques
Nevill (+)
O'Keefe *
Lalor
Copeland
Bollinger
Hazlewood
Cruickshank may come in for Lalor. The departures of Hughes, Khawaka and Katich have certainly left a gaping hole in NSW top six.
Maddinson
Patterson
Smith
Rohrer
Henriques
Nevill (+)
O'Keefe *
Lalor
Copeland
Bollinger
Hazlewood
Cruickshank may come in for Lalor. The departures of Hughes, Khawaka and Katich have certainly left a gaping hole in NSW top six.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Bloody better. There's no reason to play so many bowlers.
Andre
International Regular
Yep, it was Queensland that was mentioned. There are concerns what he brings to teams though outside batting. Wonder if Queensland thought it was too much trouble.Kept saying Queensland at the time though. Maybe they didn't want him.
bondi beach
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Lalor is certainly a better prospect than Cruickshank although it highlights the lack of options available to NSW. Hughes, Katich and Khawaja need to be replaced with quality.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
And it's that sort of ridiculous thinking that has cost us in the past.
bondi beach
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
I think the opening bowlers will be queing up to bowl against NSW given the lack of quality currently within the squad. You cannot replace proven internationals with grade cricketers!